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1 posted on 01/01/2010 1:45:11 PM PST by TitansAFC
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To: TitansAFC
How about the world going Godly to save the planet--works for me.

vaudine

29 posted on 01/01/2010 2:03:59 PM PST by vaudine
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To: TitansAFC
Maybe the Pope does not want black soot on his beautiful white outfit. Viva il Papa!!!


33 posted on 01/01/2010 2:09:44 PM PST by GinaLolaB
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The Pope is distinguishing the differences between “polution” and “glpbal warming”...Lest everyone jump off to the wrong conclusion there is a link to his 07 new years message message printed in the same paper in this article dubunking CO2 causing global warming in http://www.theusmat.com/


35 posted on 01/01/2010 2:13:50 PM PST by mosesdapoet ( What did Obama's UK's first trip and his curious entourage of 500 cost US ?)
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The Bible teachers that God has put humanity in charge of the earth with the role of stewards. That means that it is our job to look after the animals and other creatures that God made.

We have permission, since the Flood, to kill and eat animals. But that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t treat them fairly and treat God’s whole creation as true stewards should.

In other words, I doubt very much whether the Pope gave some sort of politically correct Green speech. I imagine he simply repeated what Christianity—both Catholic and Protestant—has alwauys taught. That God has given us the responsibility of caring for the other creatures of this world.


36 posted on 01/01/2010 2:16:28 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Being “good stewards” in the biblical sense does not mean embracing econut junk science fraud theories. I fear the pope has fallen for the latter while believing it is the former.


38 posted on 01/01/2010 2:20:03 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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PapaBenXVI, I love you, but stick to your knitting, please.


41 posted on 01/01/2010 2:26:29 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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“called for “ecological responsibility” to be taught in schools.....”

Marxist drivel if actually spoken by him.


43 posted on 01/01/2010 2:27:24 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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To: TitansAFC
This is an old story, since the text of this address was released on December 15th and there were reports that day on how the Pope had "gone green." There was at least one thread here on FR about it.

It is unfortunate that the Pope seems to accept man-made global warming, or climate change, as fact. He does clearly reject the Naturalist Church of Global Warming, however. I searched for the text of the speech so that I don't have to depend on the lamestream media to tell me what the Pope said. I found this passage:

On the other hand, a correct understanding of the relationship between man and the environment will not end by absolutising nature or by considering it more important than the human person. If the Church's Magisterium expresses grave misgivings about notions of the environment inspired by eco-centrism and bio-centrism, it is because such notions eliminate the difference of identity and worth between the human person and other living things. In the name of a supposedly egalitarian vision of the "dignity" of all living creatures, such notions end up abolishing the distinctiveness and superior role of human beings. They also open the way to a new pantheism tinged with neo-paganism, which would see the source of man's salvation in nature alone, understood in purely naturalistic terms.

That part is probably going to be left out of every MSM news report. It doesn't fit their narrow template, and they're simply not interested in reporting on what they see as differences between equally valid religions. Catholics, Protestants, neo-pagans, snake handlers, pantheists, whatever, it's all the same boring stuff as far as they're concerned.

The Pope is right that the environment is being abused in many parts of the world, although he doesn't identify the culprits by name (I would name China and India, for starters). He doesn't call for abandoning SUVs or coal-fired power plants, although his call for "more sober lifestyles" could be taken to mean just that. I don't believe the he is embracing the entire left-wing environmentalist kook agenda, but that's how it'll be played out in the media.

47 posted on 01/01/2010 2:53:36 PM PST by GenXFreedomFighter
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UK source?

This isn’t exactly what Vatican sources said.


48 posted on 01/01/2010 2:55:26 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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It wasn't even the Pope making the statement!

Holy See to UN Climate Change Conference -- "The Way Humanity Treats the Environment Influences the Way It Treats Itself"

52 posted on 01/01/2010 3:09:38 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Fine. Let's stop tearing down hydro-electric dams and let's start replacing coal plants with nukes.

Let's end Davis-Bacon so we can maximize the use of time and resources to replace traffic bottle-necks.

Let's get rid of toll roads.

Let's indemnify businesses for accidents that occur in the homes of telecommuters.

Let's drill for oil in Alaska so we don't have to drill in areas with under control of nations not inclined to hear the Pope.

Just some things to bring up shouold a lib throw this at you.

53 posted on 01/01/2010 3:32:18 PM PST by Tribune7 (Toll booths are devices funded by taxpayers to snarl traffic, waste gas and produce smog)
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No thanks


67 posted on 01/01/2010 6:00:07 PM PST by wastedyears (If I'm going out, I'm going out like Slim Pickins in Dr. Strangelove.)
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B16 must be surrounded by gaia worshippers.


69 posted on 01/01/2010 6:09:44 PM PST by x_plus_one (Even the Russian online newspaper Pravda featured a column about "the man with no visible past.")
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To: TitansAFC

Is the Pope a global warmist, or is this run of the mill ecological stewardship stuff.


76 posted on 01/01/2010 8:11:41 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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exactly when did conservatives not give a damn about conservation? The Pope is NOT jumping on the global warming bandwagon. He is, however, saying that the environment is important in the future of mankind.....duh!

In his address, called "If You Want to Cultivate Peace, Protect Creation," the pope said peace with the natural environment is the beginning of peace with all of God's creation, including people.

"Respect for creation is of immense consequence, not least because creation is the beginning and the foundation of all God's works, and its preservation has now become essential for the pacific coexistence of mankind," the pope said.

78 posted on 01/01/2010 8:41:50 PM PST by Natural Law
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“”An objective shared by all, an indispensable condition for peace, is that of overseeing the earth’s natural resources with justice and wisdom,” he said.

Calling for an end to war and in particular the suffering of children, the 82-year-old, German-born pontiff said there was “a close link” between respect for mankind and respect for nature.”

Yeah...an end to war. Unless he was calling for the second coming to come quickly, he was wasting his breath. And why is the suffering of a child different from the suffering of an adult? And who gets to decide if the natural resources are being overseen with justice and wisdom?


87 posted on 01/02/2010 8:24:12 AM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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Instead of ecological concerns, the pope should be talking about slavery still existing in many parts of the world, the abuse of women and children in many nations, letting the government be our brother's keeper rather than the responsibility of the individual.

I'd rather breath the air in the USA than most places in the world. We have done a lot to stop pollution in this country. We have some of the cleanest air in the world, but the pope isn't distinguishing between the chicken little global warming crowd and true environmental stewardship.

106 posted on 01/02/2010 12:15:02 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: Quix; Dr. Eckleburg
well some are trying


110 posted on 01/02/2010 1:36:10 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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