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Threat Matrix: 2010
Freerepublic.com ^ | 12/31/2009 | Freeper TMers

Posted on 12/31/2009 10:06:46 AM PST by Velveeta

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To: WestCoastGal; Candor7
WCG, that is an amazing report about the 2009 airlines incidents.

LESS than a dozen??

Remarkable...

That simply is NOT the impression I have.

Frankly, I wouldn't get on a plane UNLESS it was an El Al airliner, NO WAY ~ NO FLY ... I'm still unsure where I got the impression that I'd read lots and lots and lots of incidents where passengers were left on airliners, far away from the airport terminal during bomb-scare events .... I have NO idea why that has my been my distinct impression for several years.

Candor7 assures me that I am mistaken, and I trust him entirely.

Strange, hey?? LOLOL

421 posted on 01/03/2010 8:56:17 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Well ~ that’s what the ‘TSA’ reported - notice the AirTran incident is not on there - I will have to look to see if there are others (I’m sure there are) which are not reported as well.

I’m not flying anywhere either - mostly because I can’t stand to wait in any kind of line, I refuse to be patted/searched by some nitwit and/or body scanned. I am obviously not a terrorist and the sooner they figure out most of us are not the better. Every airline incident has been an ‘obvious’ perpetrator - not children, not grandmas etc.

Read page two for estimated wait times depending on circumstances.

http://bit.ly/670TkP


422 posted on 01/03/2010 9:18:59 AM PST by WestCoastGal
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To: MestaMachine
These numbers still do not jive with reality.

Do you have these reality numbers, so that we can compare?

423 posted on 01/03/2010 9:33:12 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: hennie pennie

http://avherald.com/

Mother load of reporting incidents includes medical and equipment failures.

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424 posted on 01/03/2010 9:35:14 AM PST by WestCoastGal
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Who of old TM’ers remembers the Kingfisher Airline stories?

This reminded me..

Kingfisher A332 near Mumbai on Dec 1st 2009, wrong squawk causes hijack alert

From above link.


425 posted on 01/03/2010 9:38:05 AM PST by WestCoastGal
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To: WestCoastGal

I remember once incident on Kingfisher about a young man pulling the emergency exit lever causing the door to pop open and activating the emergency chute.


426 posted on 01/03/2010 9:49:04 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta

I only have a vague memory of the 06 airline watches we did at the height of the terrorism scare - Kingfisher was a passenger link to another airline we were watching on routes from London/Paris to Reagan.


427 posted on 01/03/2010 10:02:50 AM PST by WestCoastGal
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To: Velveeta

For starters:

Posted Report:
U.S. /Other Allied troop Fatalities Nov. 2007 11/11***Nov. 2008 1/11***Nov. 2009 18/14

Reality:
As of Wednesday, Nov. 11, 2009, at least 836 members of the U.S. military had died in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Uzbekistan as a result of the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan.
That is up from 774 on October 3, 2009.

Do the math. From October to November 62 Americans were killed in Afghanistan.
Sunday, November 15, 2009
3 Americans killed in Afghanistan
November 23, 2009

4 US service members die in Afghan attacks

The deaths bring the number of Americans killed in Afghanistan in November to 15.
October was the deadliest month for U.S. troops in the eight-year war, with 58 dead.

8 Americans, 5 Canadians dead in Afghan attacks
Dec 30, 2009

Nov. statistic is only compared to Nov. previous year and does not take into account ALL the deaths between previous years. It is a deliberate misconception that American Deaths are down in Afghanistan.


428 posted on 01/03/2010 10:24:38 AM PST by MestaMachine (Your CORE is the path you walk. RINOs don't walk paths, they build roads to nowhere..)
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To: MestaMachine
>>> "No statistics that I know of because if most Americans knew how extreme the infiltration is, they would never fly anywhere ever. I don't. I would rather drive cross country. They are also very ensconced in our food producing industry." <<<

Yes, I was very surprised to learn last year that the main kosher butcher in the midwest, in Iowa was actively recruiting Somali immigrants from Minneapolis to move down to some small Iowa town and work in butchering & meat processing.

Struct me as very peculiar, but evidentally not you --- I mean I knew for many years about Tyson and the thousands of illegal Mexicans, but I didn't realize what was becoming STANDARD PRACTICE in the few industries still left in America.

I think there are lots of CEOs who should be jailed, and don't even ask me what I think should be done with the crooks on Wall Street.

Pretty pathetic, hey??

Current day history is made by a tiny percent of the population who all got advanced degrees from ivy league professional schools on the east coast ---- and they snootily consider ALL OTHER AMERICANS as very beneath their own superior selves and laugh at all of house outside of the Beltway & Hollyweird as "bitter clingers" and/or religious fanatics.

Pretty sorry state of affairs -- and look at the devestation they've caused 3rd World nations -- they're EVIL.

429 posted on 01/03/2010 10:27:10 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Velveeta

Canadian Sources:
Afghanistan produces roughly 90 percent of the world’s illicit opium.
The UN stats for opium production are as follows: In 2001, opium production was reduced to 7,606 hectares and 185 Imperial tons of opium.

Fast forward to 2008, under NATO/UN control. Opium cultivation is now 123,000 hectares, with a yield of 6,901 Imperial tons.
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That is general. I have numbers that are worse. Going thru my files and will get them up here asap.


430 posted on 01/03/2010 10:45:56 AM PST by MestaMachine (Your CORE is the path you walk. RINOs don't walk paths, they build roads to nowhere..)
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To: hennie pennie

Hennie, the savfe way to fly internationally is to talke a flight to Toronto or Montreal and connect to your international flight there.

The Canadians still have a good airline security system.

Our country, the good ole USA does not have a functioning airline security system, They have a politically correct system which does NOT work.

So fly domestic to Canada and get your international flight from there.Domestic air travel is still safe inside the USA, but perhaps not for much longer.


431 posted on 01/03/2010 10:58:05 AM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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To: MestaMachine

Logan is a hotbed of islamic ground crews. They have access to everything from maintenance to food service and baggage.
This is known. No one does anything about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Which is why I fly out of Montreal, a two hour drive from where I live.

I haven’t flown out of Logan since 2005.

Canada has a functioning airline security system because they profile ethnic Muslims and check them carefully. The USA does not, but has opted for a politically correct dysfunctional security system.Its broke and Obama refuses to fix it.Result, no one wants to fly in the USA.

Obama is a treasonous bastard who has no intenton of protecting America. He wants America to suffer for its historical, allegedly imperial transgressions, which is why he needs to be frog marched out of the White House for the leftist marxist treasonous bastard he really is.


432 posted on 01/03/2010 11:07:48 AM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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To: WestCoastGal

Your memory is likely much better than mine.
I can’t recall what I had for lunch. LOL


433 posted on 01/03/2010 11:11:20 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Candor7

Candor7, you and I and others have been fighting this underground build of a muslim army for some time now. The government is complicit. We see, and we watch, but nothing is ever done. When anything happens, it is immediately covered up and/or isolated from the public. I don’t know how we can keep avoiding a real disater. They are trying and testing every little crack in our entire system. Sooner or later, the dam will burst and America simply is not ready for it.


434 posted on 01/03/2010 11:14:05 AM PST by MestaMachine (Your CORE is the path you walk. RINOs don't walk paths, they build roads to nowhere..)
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To: MestaMachine

Thanks for the posts.
I like to see the stats.
Keep em coming and then we’ll compare.


435 posted on 01/03/2010 11:14:52 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: MestaMachine

disaster////
gah


436 posted on 01/03/2010 11:15:32 AM PST by MestaMachine (Your CORE is the path you walk. RINOs don't walk paths, they build roads to nowhere..)
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To: WestCoastGal

WASHINGTON (AP) Obama counterterrorism chief: Several hundred al-Qaida members in Yemen


437 posted on 01/03/2010 11:18:53 AM PST by JustPiper (Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. ~ML King)
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To: WestCoastGal
oversight of American Airlines

American Airlines monitored after 3 flubs

438 posted on 01/03/2010 11:22:21 AM PST by JustPiper (Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. ~ML King)
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To: WestCoastGal

Excellent CoCo, TY!!!


439 posted on 01/03/2010 11:23:15 AM PST by JustPiper (Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. ~ML King)
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To: WestCoastGal

Can you compile the incidents from this thread? I saved this one & will save all of your future summaries for quick reference


440 posted on 01/03/2010 11:25:53 AM PST by JustPiper (Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. ~ML King)
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