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passenger: Sharp-dressed man aided terror suspect Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab onto plane without pass
mlive.com ^ | 12/26/09 | Sheena Harrison

Posted on 12/26/2009 11:55:38 AM PST by American Dream 246

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To: nuconvert

He was dressed like that to look like a poor soul from Sudan...it was just another ploy to help him on this plane.


41 posted on 12/26/2009 1:19:21 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Rennes Templar
“Time to start profiling”

Time to outlaw this sadistic cult, end all immigration, level all mosques, and hang all politicians who insist we don't. Islam is a filthy disgusting cult that must be expelled from this country. This incident is just another example of Islams murderous and sadistic nature

42 posted on 12/26/2009 1:20:02 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: DCPatriot

Would not surprise me that there were two or more jihadis on the plane willing to die. If the attack was foiled they could debrief their al Queda masters on what went wrong.The next attack would have the benefit of their real time intel. If the attack succeeeded they’d meet the virgins. If I was running DHS, CIA, FBI I’d follow up on every person on that plane, including the crew.


43 posted on 12/26/2009 1:22:46 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: nuconvert
He may have been poorly dressed, but he lived in an expensive apartment in London, and his father is a wealthy banker.

GG World of Justice: Our military ought to replicate the attempted bomb, only doing it right this time. The bomb should be strapped to the dude's gut and detonated. No trial is needed, we can just call it passenger assistance.

44 posted on 12/26/2009 1:27:29 PM PST by Go Gordon (Obama - One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: xkaydet65

LOL! IMO, you’re watching too much CSI.

What kind of person would volunteer to take a passive role in the event....knowing the only value people have on you is what you can relate happened if the bomb fails.

....unless the kidnapped his wife and kids and threatened to kill them.

LOL! I watch Criminal Minds!


45 posted on 12/26/2009 1:27:55 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: nuconvert

How did he get a visa without a passport?


46 posted on 12/26/2009 1:28:19 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Candor7

“Unnamed airline administratpr lets the perp board without a passport.”

We don’t know that. This story (if true) says he tried to get on without one. The story doesn’t say whether in the end he gave them his passport in order to get on.


47 posted on 12/26/2009 1:35:03 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: manc

what can be done about this stupid double standard...that W got attacked for the same things that 0 gets a pass???

y’all are offering ideas...here is a very important area to address.

yeah...the MSM is ever shrinking, but what additional ideas do y’all have?


48 posted on 12/26/2009 1:35:34 PM PST by mreerm
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To: USNBandit

“How did he get a visa without a passport?”

Exactly


49 posted on 12/26/2009 1:36:55 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Candor7

I am sure all these involved perps were Pakis and not Indian.

Remember Mumbai!


50 posted on 12/26/2009 1:37:05 PM PST by Palladin (Holder and Obama are terrorists.)
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To: xkaydet65

I would love to see the complete passenger list.


51 posted on 12/26/2009 1:38:06 PM PST by Palladin (Holder and Obama are terrorists.)
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To: shield

“He was dressed like that to look like a poor soul from Sudan...it was just another ploy to help him on this plane.”

Yes, I understand that


52 posted on 12/26/2009 1:38:20 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: InterceptPoint

I fly international several times a year on Delta. They have always checked for passports at least twice before boarding to the US and sometimes 3 times. I think what was going on here was the lack of a B-2 visa stamp for the passport and not the passport itself.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/types/types_1265.html


53 posted on 12/26/2009 1:42:18 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: PA-RIVER

You’d have a better chance at convincing the Feds that Detroit should be nuked than expelling all the radical muslims in this country.


54 posted on 12/26/2009 1:43:06 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: xkaydet65

Would not surprise me that there were two or more jihadis on the plane willing to die. If the attack was foiled they could debrief their al Queda masters on what went wrong.The next attack would have the benefit of their real time intel. If the attack succeeeded they’d meet the virgins. If I was running DHS, CIA, FBI I’d follow up on every person on that plane, including the crew.

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B I N G O! We have a winner.

I said this the first time I heard this rerportedon the news...

My first comment being WHY wait until you have damn near landed to blow up material, close to the ground and fire engines, foam, ambulances etc.

Why didn’t he pull this off over the ocean...less life saving resources? With more people asleep?

Why not detonate the device in the bathroom?

I think several things:

this cat has a message to relay to “someone” here in the USA. I think we have a spy somewhere in Detroit maybe in the hospital, where a message will be relayed from this terrorist to someone here in Detroit area. Maybe a CAIR representative will get the message and relay.

This guy was CHOSEN to do this for a reason. They tried to break the trail from Yemen to Europe with the “no passport” claim, however it has failed.

OR, did others board that flight with no so called passport?

This guy was NOT suppose to die...we know that by the chain of events. The timing at the last 10 minutes was a diversion and a reminder that “al quida” can smuggle explosives onto a plane.

THEY proved it!

There have to be OTHERS who were on that flight watching the chain of events. How well they got through security. If security APPEARS lax. If there appears to be new sniffing techniques looking for explosives...etc

This was a trial run and I fear we have just begun to see the beginning of more attacks.


55 posted on 12/26/2009 1:47:53 PM PST by antivenom (If FOX "is not a news org," it's equally appropriate that the White House is "not real government")
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To: nuconvert

who is to say he doesn’t have 5 or 6 different aliases?

Mybe he came in as Bob the Brit and left as Craig the Paki?


56 posted on 12/26/2009 1:49:34 PM PST by antivenom (If FOX "is not a news org," it's equally appropriate that the White House is "not real government")
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To: MindBender26

who is to say he doesn’t have 5 or 6 aliases? getting around and when times get tough starts the “I don’t have a passport” game.

Sort of like another black muslim I know with his birth certificate?


57 posted on 12/26/2009 1:51:35 PM PST by antivenom (If FOX "is not a news org," it's equally appropriate that the White House is "not real government")
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To: American Dream 246
Ah, MLive...pulling The New York Times trick of revealing our counter-terrorism efforts.
58 posted on 12/26/2009 1:58:45 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: nuconvert
Assuming this story is legit, my guess is I think he had a passport, but didn’t want to use it if he didn’t have to.

Now, now...don't be skeptical of what you read online!

;-)

59 posted on 12/26/2009 2:01:09 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: antivenom
My first comment being WHY wait until you have damn near landed to blow up material, close to the ground and fire engines, foam, ambulances etc.

One possible answer (from a commentator this morning on Fox) was that they wanted it to crash and kill persons on the ground (a manned unguided missile) to make it an attack on the homeland.

Why not detonate the device in the bathroom?

I believe the feds are thinking about that. Again from Fox, they are reporting that all passengers are to remain seated during the last hour of flight with no access to overhead bins or restrooms and nothing on their laps.

60 posted on 12/26/2009 2:01:48 PM PST by CedarDave (FOX news:"Fair and balanced (no matter what the White House says) . We report because others won't.")
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