Time for drastic measures

The Macon County Conservative Examiner ^ | 12/24/09 | Robert Moon

[aquapub]

Now that we have been painted into a corner with the passage of this Constitution-trampling explosion of government, we have only 4 options left before things get ugly:

1) Vote them out in 2010. This option requires much patience and will not actually mean anything unless those elected actually reverse all the spending, bailouts and takeovers.

Most likely, Democrats will be punished for a few years while Republicans ride the tidal wave of public outrage into office, at which point they will throw us some symbolic scraps from the table, rather than making a serious commitment to uprooting federal tyranny. It is absolutely critical that we get actual conservatives into office and eject the RINOs in 2010.

2) Legal challenge in the courts. There is a chance that the Supreme Court could reverse this law based on the "Commerce Clause" debate (a few states being bribed and blackmailed into submission at the expense of all the others).

3) Nullification. This is where states stand up for their 10th Amendment rights and declare that, since this law is blatantly unconstitutional, they refuse to acknowledge that it was even passed.

And no, the Founders never intended for the federal government to be the sole determiner of the size and scope of its own power. State nullification was always intended as a natural check against federal encroachments.

4) Civil disobedience (the only option that requires no waiting). The politicians are now coming home to face their constituents. Escalate things by organizing a disruptive demonstration, like a sit-in.

While government creates 111 new federal bureaucracies and destroys the free market system that 84% of us are happy with, the politicians have exempted themselves from the rationed, inferior care the rest of us are left with. But they cannot exempt themselves from us.

As Thomas Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence, when government becomes adversarial to the people, it is both the right and the responsibility of the people to rise up and "alter or abolish" that government. Government gets its power from us.

It is time to step up and take back what is ours.

[OneWingedShark]

The government doing into such debt that you and your children and your children’s children will NEVER pay it off _IS_ insufferable. I just hope more people awaken to that truth and are willing to fight violently against being enslaved.

[CodeToad]

I think the time for talking is over. We’ve had years of shouting, writing letters, faxes and email, millions upon millions of phone calls, a protest in DC that had millions, one web site after another, and even television networks supporting the people. How much more do they need to know before doing what we demand?? We even voted out the idiots in 1994 only to no real results. We deserve freedom and liberal in our lifetimes, not if they decide to do it. We must make them do it.

Civil disobedience needs to get physical. I mean, so far their response has been, “What are you going to do about it anyway? Get lost.”

[free1977free]

bump for later

[wintertime]

I believe our best course is to worry about ourselves right now,
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Before take off the flight attendant **always** warns to the passenger to put the oxygen mask on his **own* face first before helping others.

It's a Maslow’s hierarchy of needs thing. The lower levels of needs, ( food, clothing, shelter) must be met first before we can reach our own levels of “self-actualization” or help others to reach theirs.

However...A spiritual revival is sorely needed. If we repair ourselves spiritually the materials things will begin to improve immediately. But...Again, it is a personal quest first before we can help others.

[HiTech RedNeck]

That’s between America and God. It should not be a reason to refrain from doing earthly good, that such good might be abused or neglected once it has been done.

[SteamShovel]

Unless we use freedom to make the world a better place for many

I believe this is what we have been doing since WWII, very recently with Tsunami aid, Democracy and greater freedoms in Iraq and Afghanistan, etc.

Conservatives have and will continue to support such things. It's not about big screen TVs or materialism. Its about freedom and man's inherent rights.

[MileHi]

Thanks

Merry Christmas

[Attention Surplus Disorder]

Stated differently, but not much differently:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2414997/posts

[grey_whiskers]

Nathan, check out post #10 this thread, please.

Cheers!

Merry Christmas.

[Raven6]

Amen... Well said.

Regards,
Raven6

[nutmeg]

Excerpt:

While government creates 111 new federal bureaucracies and destroys the free market system that 84% of us are happy with, the politicians have exempted themselves from the rationed, inferior care the rest of us are left with. But they cannot exempt themselves from us.

As Thomas Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence, when government becomes adversarial to the people, it is both the right and the responsibility of the people to rise up and "alter or abolish" that government. Government gets its power from us.

It is time to step up and take back what is ours.

[Man50D]

Any federal version of health care is unconstitutional since Article1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care. The people are not bound by any unconstitutional act committed by Congress and are therefore not required to comply.

[homegroan]

Awesome reply-I wish I could write like that because it’s everything I had in my brain that refuses to come out thru my fingertips.

So-the only thing I can say is-”yeah-what he said”.

SZQ

[bert]

....................Become nonpolitical............

That is otherwise known as copping out

[bert]

.....3) Nullification. This is where states stand up for their 10th Amendment rights and declare that, since this law is blatantly unconstitutional, they refuse to acknowledge that it was even passed.......

This is already passed in Tennessee, I think and on reflection may make following a course like that in Oklahoma unnecessary

We still need lunch however

[bert]

You complicate the issue too much. Freedom is the end in itself

[familyop]

"That is otherwise known as copping out"

We don't owe a living (excessive personal expenditures/debts), political acquiescence or even respect to bipartisan, anti-American interests. Such sissified, worldly crooks have become irksome and no longer have our support. After the defaults and scorns to come, we'll have small government without ties to corporate socialism.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Attention Surplus Disorder]

Many thanks for the kind reply!

[firebrand]

"People who, like us, live in a dying civilization, have three choices: We can attempt to avert the decline as a child builds a sand-castle on the edge of the advancing tide. We can ignore the death of beauty, of scholarship, of art, of intellectual integrity, finding solace in our own consolations. And that is what for some years I have tried to do. Thirdly, we can join the barbarians and take our share of the spoils. That is the popular choice and in the end it was mine."

--murderer in Death in Holy Orders, by P. D. James