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Hugo Chavez Orders Military To Shoot At US Aircraft
The Telegraph ^ | December 20, 2009

Posted on 12/21/2009 3:14:37 AM PST by Fennie

Speaking during his weekly television and radio program, Mr Chavez said the aircraft overflew a Venezuelan military base in the western state of Zulia after taking off from neighbouring Columbia. He did not elaborate, but suggested the plane was being used for espionage.

"These are the Yankees. They are entering Venezuela," he said. "I've ordered them to be shot down," Mr Chavez said of the aircraft. "We cannot permit this."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airforce; bho44; bholatinamerica; chavez; espionage; hugochavez; iran; israel; obama; shootdown; venezuela
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To: Prole
I like the painting of the 48th TFW F-111F bombing Col. Gaddafi's Il-76s on the tarmac at Tripoli International Airport. Looks cool.
41 posted on 12/21/2009 6:22:43 AM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: Fennie

It’s open season on buzzards in Venezuela today

Any big high flying bird is in danger


42 posted on 12/21/2009 6:27:19 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: myknowledge

Correct. Nothing in the sky is a match for the Raptor. Nothing.


43 posted on 12/21/2009 6:32:50 AM PST by Grimm (Watching them try to hide the decline from waaaaay over in Iraq.)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

No, we don’t shoot back anymore; we have der Fuehrer of hope and change and the change is that we support POS dictators.


44 posted on 12/21/2009 6:35:12 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Fennie

He threatens to shoot down our planes and Americans still buy their gas at CITGO stations.

I just don’t get it.


45 posted on 12/21/2009 6:37:40 AM PST by panaxanax (It's time for TEA Party Patriots to get an 'ATTITUDE'.)
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To: Fennie
If I remember right there is a pretty strong percentage of Venezuelans who are pro U.S., and a larger percentage who'd rather not have their leader piss us off militarily.

Wonder how his floundering economy would do after we bombed about 25% of his oil production capabilites.

46 posted on 12/21/2009 6:41:10 AM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: Prole
How I miss the days of President Reagan.

For the sake of our country the next one better get here in 2012.

47 posted on 12/21/2009 6:43:26 AM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: Fennie

OK...so we build 3,000 plywood radio shack controlled dummy craft, and we fly them into Dumnasses airspace and make him waste all of his imported million dollar surface to air missles...and if it takes more than one Nissle to take out a drone, due to an adept controller...so much the better. >Bo)


48 posted on 12/21/2009 6:44:54 AM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: mountn man
Or why not engage and destroy the Sukhois in the air, Operation Bolo style?

Try sending in two flights of four F-22s (one as backup) disguised as F-15s, you know, flying flight patterns like that of the Eagles while escorting a Rivet Joint, Cobra Ball or JSTARS? The Venezuelans might take the bait and it might lure the Sukhois into the trap.

The SuCAP callsign for the Eagles (I mean Raptors) would be 'Bugs'; the second would be 'Foghorn' (callsign names are derived from Looney Tunes characters)

49 posted on 12/21/2009 6:46:32 AM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: Fennie
"I've ordered them to be shot down," Mr Chavez said of the aircraft. "We cannot permit this." Photobucket

Young Julio Alvarez, dressed in his traditional Venezuelan anti-aircraft gunnery uniform, practices his technique for bringing down American aircraft. He hopes to bring down many American planes for the glory of his motherland or at least put out someone's eye.
50 posted on 12/21/2009 6:47:54 AM PST by 762X51
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To: myknowledge
The one major difference (one of MANY) of the Raptor, is its radar cross section. The Raptor has a RCS of a bee or bird. The Eagle has one the size of a door way.

There is a saying"Beware of Raptors with open doors", its the only time they show up on radar. It also means a missle just launched.

You could fly Raptors in the same formation as Eagles, but if they're not seen on radar, thats useless. And if you make them seen, that eliminates their greatest tactical advantage.

In war scenarios the Raptor has taken out 16 Eagles with 4 Raptors, WITHOUT the Eagle pilots knowing Raptors were in theatre.

So my idea would be to lure Hugo with "civilian" type craft, and basically his planes get destroyed without a warning. Of course the fighters will know they've been had when the missle locks. But they'll never know where it came from.

51 posted on 12/21/2009 7:05:17 AM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: DGHoodini
Wow. Great idea! Some plastic or plywood radio-controlled UAVs would do the trick, and fly them over Caracas (defended by an SA-20 battery) and expend the supersonic missiles.

Reminds of the IAI Harpy SEAD drone used by the Israeli Air Force during the 1982 Lebanon War against the Syrian SAM batteries, with devastating effect.

The IAI Harpy drone flew flight patterns and generated RCS returns resembling Israeli fighters, and an F-4E in the SEAD role would trail the Harpy, using it as bait to draw out a Syrian SAM radar. Once the radar got a lock on the Harpy, the F-4E would kill the radar with an AGM-45 Shrike ARM.

52 posted on 12/21/2009 7:11:38 AM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: panaxanax

53 posted on 12/21/2009 7:37:17 AM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: Einherjar

I agree. Death from above.


54 posted on 12/21/2009 8:53:40 AM PST by ffusco (The President will return this country to what it once was...An arctic wasteland covered in ice.)
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To: Prole

Don’t you mean “Ronnie Ray-Gun?”. Yes I miss him too. First President I ever voted for, twice (and damn proud of it!).


55 posted on 12/21/2009 9:30:35 AM PST by shredderman (Living in a Blue State, with a Blue Wife, But I'm Red to the bone.....)
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To: Fennie

“The Divine One” will order our military to turn the other cheek if any American plane is shot down. If more than one American plane is shot down “The Divine One” and his apostles will immediately surrender to Venezuela.


56 posted on 12/21/2009 9:43:10 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: myknowledge

Good picture of the fat little Communist monkey. Thanks for posting.

I would walk 100 miles across the desert in the middle of August with an empty gas can before I would buy one gallon of gas from a Citgo station.


57 posted on 12/21/2009 10:31:05 AM PST by panaxanax (It's time for TEA Party Patriots to get an 'ATTITUDE'.)
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To: Fennie

El Pendejo Loco is at it again.


58 posted on 12/21/2009 12:40:35 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Fennie

Please do something stupid Hugo. Force even your friend Obama to smack you down.


59 posted on 12/21/2009 3:59:16 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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