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Senate defeats drug importation amendment
Associated Press ^ | 12-16-09 | ALAN FRAM

Posted on 12/16/2009 6:58:22 AM PST by DavidFarrar

WASHINGTON – The Senate rejected a plan Tuesday to allow Americans to import low-cost prescriptions from abroad, handing drug makers a victory that may help secure passage of President Barack Obama's health care overhaul.

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KEYWORDS: drugs; importation; obama
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The defeat of this amendment should tell you all you need to know about the political objective of lowering costs under Obama's health care initiative.

ex animo

davidfarrar

1 posted on 12/16/2009 6:58:27 AM PST by DavidFarrar
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To: DavidFarrar

The cost of these prescriptions is “killing folks”. A lot of folks (old folks in particular...and probably more women in particular) cut their pills in half..or don’t take meds because of the cost.


2 posted on 12/16/2009 7:02:00 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: DavidFarrar

My problem with re-importation from Canada (and that is generally what is used as a reference) is this: Canada imposes prices on American-made drugs that allow the company to recover manufacturing cost and a small profit. Sound good? How do you finance any new product development? The companies have the option to abide or abandon the Canadian market (and give up patent rights to the Canadian government). Re-importation from Canada would cut R&D budgets, and since we do the bulk of R&D, there would be cheap drugs, but few new ones.....

hh


3 posted on 12/16/2009 7:05:24 AM PST by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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To: DavidFarrar

Looks like the vote to kill it was bipartisan, which means the RINO-party is just as guilty as the Neo-Communist party at sustaining the trade protectionism for their political benefactors. The free market be damned.


4 posted on 12/16/2009 7:06:41 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: DavidFarrar
CONTACT INFO FOR LOCAL OFFICES/FAXES

emails and calling DC are a waste of time in most cases they have busied the lines, limited the amount of space in boxes etc. They are NOT use to having their local offices called and faxed by angry FReepers. Feel free to add your own senators...remind the republicans to stand firm and NO compromises! Local numbers can usually be found under the contact info or the services info. Do a copy paste with line breaks and paragraph breaks for easy reading/copying.

5 posted on 12/16/2009 7:07:00 AM PST by GailA (JESUS is Christmas! Cradle in the shadow of a Cross)
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To: DavidFarrar

Speaks volumes.


6 posted on 12/16/2009 7:07:34 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: bamahead

“. The free market be damned.”

The government long ago got rid of THAT.


7 posted on 12/16/2009 7:08:57 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: hoosier hick
Canada imposes prices on American-made drugs that allow the company to recover manufacturing cost and a small profit.

It's a good point, but the counterpoint I'd make is that here you have a situation where price controls by one government (Canada) result in protectionist policies from another (the US). If the free market were being allowed to work unfettered, competition would take care of the price issues.

8 posted on 12/16/2009 7:11:25 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: DavidFarrar

This is all theater, posturing for the media.

Although drugs can be imported from Canada with a certain amount of trust, that does not necessarily apply to Latvia or Bulgaria or Venezuela. The larger question is protecting the public from counterfeit trash that kills.

Would you trust a drug made in North Korea and trans shipped through Venezuela?


9 posted on 12/16/2009 7:12:31 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: bert

Pharma’s piece of the Health Care bill ...... Follow the money


10 posted on 12/16/2009 7:20:15 AM PST by gibtx2 (End Tenure)
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To: hoosier hick
The companies have the option to abide or abandon the Canadian market (and give up patent rights to the Canadian government). Re-importation from Canada would cut R&D budgets, and since we do the bulk of R&D, there would be cheap drugs, but few new ones.....

Another way of saying that is that Americans are, and have been for years, subsidizing the socialized medical systems of Canada and other nations by paying much higher prices for drugs developed by US drug firms.

Just another hidden tax or fee paid by Americans that few talk about openly.

11 posted on 12/16/2009 7:26:57 AM PST by Will88
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To: Sacajaweau

An older friend is going the Canadian import route, it’s either that or go without as the “doughnut hole” has been reached and nothing else is affordable now.


12 posted on 12/16/2009 7:33:52 AM PST by 1066AD
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To: bert

Yes, if the Food and Drug Administration ran the due process tests on them, or even private companies, we can successfully address issues of protecting the public from counterfeit trash that kills. This argument is simply a red herring — in my humble opinion, of course.

As an example, I presently purchase a prescription drug from India through a Canadian company for $21. That same prescription costs $102 here in the U.S.

We are being ripped off,IMHO.

ex animo
davidfarrar


13 posted on 12/16/2009 7:34:24 AM PST by DavidFarrar (davidfarrar)
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To: bamahead
Looks like the vote to kill it was bipartisan, which means the RINO-party is just as guilty as the Neo-Communist party at sustaining the trade protectionism for their political benefactors. The free market be damned.

The vote tally was 51-48 in favor; there are only 40 GOP votes. How do you blame the GOP for that?

14 posted on 12/16/2009 7:34:45 AM PST by TonyInOhio (The city of masterless men has found a Master.)
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To: Will88

Sadly you are right. But since we can’t change the rest of the world, there are few good alternatives. One might be to prohibit exportation of drugs while under patent protection. I doubt whether most other countries would notice, though....

hh


15 posted on 12/16/2009 7:35:38 AM PST by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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To: TonyInOhio

It doesnt matter because odumbo will keep his campaign promise and veto this bill


16 posted on 12/16/2009 7:40:08 AM PST by italianquaker (odumbo is getting all wee wee d up)
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To: hoosier hick
Sadly you are right.

And adding to something said in another post, there actually is no free market internationally. Never has been and likely never will be. And the more the US government pretends there is a free market internationally, the more US citizens and businesses will pay a price for the pretense.

The US still has the economic power to deal with this drug situation and other situations where other nations take advantage of the US in international trade, but the government is too cowardly and bought off to do it.

17 posted on 12/16/2009 7:42:59 AM PST by Will88
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To: DavidFarrar

This is one of a couple of issues where I can foresee very intense populist pressures creating some problems for the GOP in the next cycle. Banking fees/credit card interest is another. Traditional lassiez-faire positions on those are going to be a no-sale with wide swaths of the electorate.


18 posted on 12/16/2009 7:45:02 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: hoosier hick
since we do the bulk of R&D

Major pharma's are in Japan, India, Israel, Germany.

The US does not have a monopoly on R&D. Check the USDA and their list of 'approved' import drugs.
19 posted on 12/16/2009 7:46:20 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: bamahead

I would like to get the breakdown of this vote. Can anyone assist?

ex animo
davidfarrar


20 posted on 12/16/2009 7:46:55 AM PST by DavidFarrar (davidfarrar)
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