Posted on 12/13/2009 6:49:35 PM PST by USALiberty
New military rules of engagement ostensibly to protect Afghan civilians are putting the lives of U.S. forces in jeopardy, claim Army and Marine sources, as the Taliban learns to game plan based the rules' imposed limits.
The rules of engagement, or ROEs, apply to all coalition forces of the United States and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Their enactment is in response to Afghan President Hamid Karzai's complaints over mounting civilian deaths apparently occurring in firefights.
Despite the fact that the newly arrived U.S. commander in Afghanistan, General Stanley McChrystal, imposed the more restrictive ROEs to minimize the killing of innocent civilians, however, the Taliban is well aware of them and has its own forces acting in ways to counteract them.
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This “leader” tried to have out troops remove their body armor to “show trust” to the locals. This “leader” is a clear and present danger to our troops. PERIOD!
McChrystal presented these ROE back in July of this year. He did not conform. He was already of the same mind. A good Commander would NEVER sacrifice his troops the way McChrystal has and do so willingly. McChrystal has done this willingly. NO RESPECT for the man. He deserves none. not from me, and not from the Troops he is PERSONALLY endangering.
Must be great for morale!
Understood, but you are not suggesting that this in any way absolves the usurper from guilt for the way he wants to wage this “war”, are you?
He is evidently in complete agreement with these ROE.
obama IS part and parcel of what we are supposed to be fighting. No, I do NOT absolve him. I think he belongs right there with them. He is in agreement with them about us, U S, and he does not care about our troops in any way, shape, or form.
But I understand that obama is that foreign and that antagonistic to America.
McChrystal is NOT. He is supposed to care. He is supposed to protect the lives of those under HIS command, even if he must defy obama to do it.
I respect him less and blame him more. We KNOW what obama is. We should be able to expect much more from our Military “leaders.” Our Troops have a right to that loyalty from their Commander, and they do NOT have it.
PS. McChrystal is without honor. NONE!!!
Thanks for the reply.
Happy Hannukah!
Their enactment is in response to Afghan President Hamid Karzai's complaints over mounting civilian deaths apparently occurring in firefights.Remove US troops from any role protecting Karzai's sorry ass, and see how long A) he lives or B) if he survives how long before he learns to keep his puppet mouth closed.
Thanks for posting the transcript.
The logical approach to dealing with the dangerous ROE constraints is to avoid them by the U.S. vacating Afghanistan.
Thank you, and Happy Hannukah and Merry Christmas to all.
Remember our Troops and send what you can. Little things mean a lot.
Or by turning it into green glass. An idea that should already have happened. YEARS ago.
1.A politically correct war cannot be won.
2.Nation building is just some Western fantasy, and when we leave things will get much worse.
3.The infidel does not get to dictate to Muslims what Islam is.
4.Fighting them over there and allowing them to setup shop over here is just plain foolish.
The Generals are part of the problem. PC Islamic bootlickers.
Look at this one.
US Maj. Gen. Jeffery Hammond: Islam is a Beautiful Religion
http://loganswarning.com/?p=240
Then he should stand up for his men instead of hanging them out to dry. The Pentagon has turned into a PC joke.
It isn’t just foolish. It’s suicidal. islam has not changed one iota since its inception, but it has changed the way the world perceives it. They will say and do anything to kill the infidel. All of these idiots who think this “religion” deserves any respect at all and line up to support them will be the first ones to reap their reward. Convert or die. There is no compromise with islam. NONE.
This is what I have been saying forever! These PC generals are killing our military, which will eventually kill us all. I get so frustrated sometimes, I just sputter!
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Rules of engagement killing U.S. soldiers
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Maybe a month ago, I heard a National Public Radio (NPR) reporter
interviewing a Afghani tribal elder.
He complained about the local NATO troops because “they won’t shoot
back at Talibanis/terrorists that shot at them”. Those NATO troops
were from Germany; their local commander did consent to an interview and said
their instructions were to hold fire if there was any possibility
of hitting civilians.
AND
The Afgahni tribal elder said he wanted AMERICAN soldiers.
Why?
Because, in so many words: “THEY SHOOT BACK WHEN THEY ARE SHOT AT”
IIRC, there was no interview with the American commander in an
adjacent area...probably didn’t want it broadcast that his contingent
actually believed in a robust response. Which I suspect is beyond the
ROEs issued by Gen. McCrytal (sp?).
This is why I guffawed at Obama’s “presidential” speech at West
Point...unless he REALLY gives the “boots on the ground” from the
USA full/clear permission to shoot when shot at...he might as well
simply withdraw them.
thank-you.
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