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Rules of engagement killing U.S. soldiers
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | December 13, 2009 | F. Michael Maloof

Posted on 12/13/2009 6:49:35 PM PST by USALiberty

New military rules of engagement ostensibly to protect Afghan civilians are putting the lives of U.S. forces in jeopardy, claim Army and Marine sources, as the Taliban learns to game plan based the rules' imposed limits.

The rules of engagement, or ROEs, apply to all coalition forces of the United States and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Their enactment is in response to Afghan President Hamid Karzai's complaints over mounting civilian deaths apparently occurring in firefights.

Despite the fact that the newly arrived U.S. commander in Afghanistan, General Stanley McChrystal, imposed the more restrictive ROEs to minimize the killing of innocent civilians, however, the Taliban is well aware of them and has its own forces acting in ways to counteract them.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistank; aghanistan; bhodod; islam; islamofacism; kenyanusurper; military; muslims; obama; oef; oefsurge; palin; politics; rulesofengagement; veterans; waronterror
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I am beginning to question the loyalty of Gen. Stanley McChrystal. He seems too eager to do the bidding of our Islamist in chief.
1 posted on 12/13/2009 6:49:36 PM PST by USALiberty
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They can’t engage or shoot unless in dire danger. This means if a trooper clearly sees a Talib planting an IED, s/he cannot fire at him/her/it. This is because the IED over there is not specifically targeting him/her.

IT ONLY SOUNDS MADE UP...


2 posted on 12/13/2009 6:52:16 PM PST by gaijin
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To: USALiberty

THAT is the intent of the Guy in the White House.


3 posted on 12/13/2009 6:55:52 PM PST by madison10
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To: madison10

Will the generals put an end to this madness?


4 posted on 12/13/2009 6:57:05 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: USALiberty

” No night or surprise searches

Villagers are to be warned prior to searches

Afghan National Army, or ANA, or Afghan National Police, or ANP, must accompany U.S. units on searches

U.S. soldiers may not fire at insurgents unless they are preparing to fire first

U.S. forces cannot engage insurgents if civilians are present

Only women can search women

Troops can fire on insurgents if they catch them placing an IED but not if insurgents walk away from where the explosives are.”


5 posted on 12/13/2009 6:58:05 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: USALiberty

Yes they are.

Obama intends to lose this war in the most humiliating, for America, way possible


6 posted on 12/13/2009 6:58:16 PM PST by GeronL (Join the Palin Beer Summit Putsch!!)
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To: USALiberty

The Generals?

Your kidding right?

lol. Those guys are probably willing to follow whatever Obama says.


7 posted on 12/13/2009 6:59:03 PM PST by GeronL (Join the Palin Beer Summit Putsch!!)
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To: gaijin

This is absolutely silly!


8 posted on 12/13/2009 7:12:35 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: USALiberty

You seem to forget that the good General was chosen/handpicked by the Islamist in Chief to be in command in Afganistan, so what else would he do?


9 posted on 12/13/2009 7:15:04 PM PST by Flyover Country
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I am beginning to question the loyalty of Gen. Stanley McChrystal. He seems too eager to do the bidding of our Islamist in chief.

I agree 100%. If McChrystal had any integrity or decency at all he would quit rather than jeopardize the lives of our sons and daughters with these assinine "rules". Apparently, McChrystal is just another selfish buffoon, begging for another star.

10 posted on 12/13/2009 7:18:28 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: GeronL

You have officers that are patriots, and officers that learn to play the political game and get their cheese. We remember the patriots, and soon forget the others.


11 posted on 12/13/2009 7:23:50 PM PST by Dogbert41
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To: USALiberty

Pull them out, if they can’t fight.


12 posted on 12/13/2009 7:38:52 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It’s not silly, when it is costing the lives of our soldiers.

Two real examples I’ve heard of:

Can’t fire on women carrying ammo to the fighters who are shooting at our troops. Cease fire when the women are passing out the ammo.

Can’t fire at the Taliban with the binoculars, adjusting the mortar fire on our troops. He is not holding a “weapon,” merely binoculars to help improve the aim of the mortar teams killing our troops.


13 posted on 12/13/2009 7:45:50 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: USALiberty

bttt


14 posted on 12/13/2009 9:36:45 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Travis McGee

I mean silly rule not silly concern about the rule


15 posted on 12/13/2009 10:56:12 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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Rules of engagement killing U.S. soldiers

Not only in Afghanistan.
I have considered that unacceptable in Iraq, too.

While I supported both Iraq I and II, it became evident immediately that our soldiers were hobbled by political correctness.

I immediately changed my wind. I would not fight any war under the rules our youngest and finest have to follow.

Fight to win; to win quickly or not at all.
Consider no target off limits under any circumstances if our troops are being fired on.

No exceptions.

Unless, of course, the cowards that make up the stupid ROEs are there beside me. Yes, specially the CIC!

16 posted on 12/14/2009 1:31:58 AM PST by Publius6961 (Â…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: Publius6961

I had read an article by an ex-Green Beret who said there would be less collateral damage in the long run, if we just went in and brought the enemy to their knees by fighting with a vengeance.


17 posted on 12/14/2009 3:47:41 AM PST by panthermom
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I know, I was just cranky in general after reading that crap.


18 posted on 12/14/2009 4:00:25 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Lancey Howard
McChrystal is just another selfish buffoon, begging for another star.

Or, maybe he has become a "true believer." Either way, it's bad. Are there enough patriots in the Pentagon to counter-act this stuff? One can only hope!
19 posted on 12/14/2009 4:16:28 AM PST by USALiberty
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I was in Iraq in ‘03-'04,it was even crazy back then.The ROE could change daily and was hard to keep-up with.I am sure it is worse now and that is bad because if you have a doubt it can cause a hesitation that could cost you or your friend your life.
20 posted on 12/14/2009 7:32:21 AM PST by Hotmetal
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