Not so!
The best way for a Lurker to know the Truth is to read the
Book of Mormon
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/bm/contents
and the let the Lord bear witness to them if it is true or not!
moroni’s promise is a circular argument. You get the answer you want or are told to get.
The BoM has been debunked for over a century now. There is archaeological evidence for the Bible, but NONE, not one scrap for the BoM. Why? Tell me where Zerahemla is?
The truth can be found (stuff the LDS will lie to you by omission at least) here:
www.utlm.org
www.mrm.org
www.irr.org/mit
But the BoM does not contain most of LDS doctrine. In fact, the parts that were plagarized from the Bible, and some others DIRECTLY CONTRADICT LDS doctrine.
“The best way for a Lurker to know the Truth is to read” about the Truth in the Bible...
He is not found in fiction...
What Jesus had to say about Himself as TRUTH...
Jesus said to Resty and the lurkers, “I am the Way the Truth, and the Life. No man or woman comes to the Father except by me.”
And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. John 8:32
If the Son shall make you free, you shall be free indeed. John 8:36
Anything less than Jesus is a lie...
Where are all the cities listed in the bom resty. Mormons have 4 theories where they are. One group say they are scattered over all the western hemisphere - just haven't been found after centuries of investigation.
Another sez N. America - except they can't find any cities there either.
Another sez a teeny tiny speck of land in Central America, but they can't find any of the cities there either.
Some have proposed that Malaysia is the place, yet they can't seem to find any cities either.
Over 25,000 archaelogical sites across the middle east have materials that have been found directly linked to the Bible. How many bom sites resty? Any chariots been found in a dig anywhere in the western hemisphere. Why are your prophets so silent?
Good advice!!
Let me know if anyone finds out what was UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANism in there!
Actually; that is BAD advice; for MORMONism does NOT depend on ANYTHING found in the BoM, but things in OTHER spurious writings and 'translations' of Egyptian papyrus.
Oh yeah...
MASONIC practices figure quite highly in the LDS 'Temple Ceremonies'
(No; you can't find THEM in ANY of the things MORMONs call 'scripture'; right RESTY??
Anyone who answers the challenge to "test" the Book of Mormon is warned that if they do, and the results are not what are required by mormons that the BOM is the word of God and Joseph Smith is a true prophet, they should NOT report their result here on FR.
If they do, the likelihood is that they will be accused of being "insincere" and/or not have tested "correctly".
Here is more on this "challenge".
Mormons sometimes claim James 1:5 as an example of such a direction. Is it really? The question of whether something is true or not is a question of facts. Possession of, or acquaintance with, facts, is knowledge. (Thus one speaks of knowing something is true, not of having wisdom that something is true.) Wisdom is the ability to interpret rightly the facts one knows, and the disposition to employ or act upon one's knowledge righteously. James 1:5 does not promise knowledge, but wisdom. Reading James 1 from the beginning one sees from the context that James was promising his readers that God would give them wisdom to understand why they were experiencing the trials and difficulties in which they found themselves. That they had such trials was a fact. It was "true" that they had difficulties. They "knew" that, and did not need God to tell them. But they needed wisdom to understand what they knew was true, and to respond to it righteously.
Mormons love to say that they are not trying to convert others to their religion; that the Holy Ghost does that. One need not take their word for the truth of their religion; one can appeal directly to God Himself for His testimony.
They frequently refer people investigating their religion to a promise in the Book of Mormon, Moroni 10:4: "And when ye shall receive these things [the Book of Mormon], I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost."
Christians refuting Mormonism sometimes point out that the verse directs one to ask "if these things are not true;" whereas most Mormons have asked, and urge Christians to ask, "if these things are true." However, these are both wordings of the same question, one put negatively, the other positively. There is really no difference, and no ground is won by such trivial objections.
Still, it is appropriate to examine this "promise" to see if it is a valid means for testing the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon. The Bible directs, "Prove [test, examine] all things; hold fast that which is good," (1 Thess. 5:21). This does not mean that we should do as the Book of Mormon directs. Testing, or examining this promise is not the same as using it. Rather, one must examine it beforehand; one must actually use it only after it has been examined and found good. If the promise is to be examined and found good before it is actually used, there must be some standard external to itself by which it can be examined or evaluated. God has given just such a standard in the Scriptures.
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There is not only no good reason to do as Moroni 10:4 directs, there is very good reason not to do so. Again, either the Book of Mormon is true or it is false. If it is true, certainly doing as it directs would produce the results it promises. If it is false, however, then Moroni 10:4, being part of the book, is likewise false and an invalid means of finding out whether or not the book is true. Relying on its promise and attempting to submit to its terms exerts tremendous pressure on the seeker to prove himself sincere by receiving the promised manifestation, even while it is forcing him to be insincere. He must rely on its promise while insincerely professing not to know yet whether it is reliable. The result is a self-perpetuating spiral of self-deceit. The need for relief from the resulting inner turmoil can easily drag one into still further self-deceit, finding a supernatural manifestation where there is none.
That is not to say no genuinely supernatural manifestations occur. Self-deception brings God's wrath and judgement (Rom. 1:18-19). The person practicing it is abandoned not only to his own delusion but also to deception of another kind (2 Thess. 2:10-11). Asking for revelation from God, while refusing to take as his standard and live by what God had already revealed, is exactly what got King Ahab killed (1 Kings 22:1-40).
That people have actually received supernatural manifestations of one form or another upon following the directions of Moroni 10:4 should surprise no one (Eph. 6:12; 1 Tim. 4:1). To think otherwise is naive. If the Book of Mormon is false, one is just as likely to receive such a manifestation from a demonic source as one would be to receive it from a divine source if the Book of Mormon were true. It must be forcefully asserted then, such manifestations do not prove the Book of Mormon true any more than the miracles wrought by Jannes and Jambres before Moses and Pharaoh proved those magicians were from God.
To sum up, the Book of Mormon cannot be proven by any test of its own devising. It must be tested by the Bible. The teaching of Moroni 10:4 not only lacks any biblical foundation, it is contrary to the Bible's teaching. Moreover, it is a manipulative device which forces insincerity and self-deception, thus opening the door to demonic influence. Far from proving the Book of Mormon true, Moroni 10:4, itself weighed in the balance and found wanting, is sufficient evidence to prove the Book of Mormon false.
“The best way for a Lurker to know the Truth is to read the Book of Mormon and the let the Lord bear witness to them if it is true or not!”
DISCLAIMERS:
1. The best way to know the truth is to read the BIBLE,
which contradicts the book of mormonites
2. God tells us to reject false doctrines, like mormonism,
so no prayer is necessary. That is a mormonism trick to get people off the ground of truth and onto the ground of subjective experience
3. The “lord” Restornu is flacking here is not the Lord Jesus Christ of the Bible. In fact, the Bible has strong admonitions against seeking familiar spirits.