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Was Air Tran Flight #297 a terrorist dry run?
The American Thinker ^ | December 11, 2009 | John Leonard

Posted on 12/11/2009 2:55:32 AM PST by Scanian

Like Climategate, there is another story the national mainstream media has either missed or largely ignored, and that is the story of what really happened November 17th on Airtran's Flight 297 from Atlanta to Houston.

Much confusion remains about exactly what transpired that afternoon on a plane preparing for takeoff at Hartsfield International Airport. By every account the undisputed facts are a large group of men disturbed procedures and upset the flight crew to the point it caused the flight to be delayed. At least one passenger allegedly refused to comply with repeated requests from flight attendants to discontinue his use of a cell phone (in compliance with FAA regulations) while the plane was taxiing on the runway, causing the pilot to turn the plane around. The entire group was asked to deplane and TSA officials questioned them before allowing them back on the flight. The original flight crew was replaced. Twelve passengers not involved with the group of belligerent Middle Eastern men deplaned and requested another flight.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; airtran; airtranflight297; flight297; hartsfieldairport; msm; muslims; terrorism; tsa
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To: ml/nj

go piss up a rope there jerky boy.
What I’ve said is true I’ve not reason to lie.
Where as you seem to pull pooh out of your gym buddies rears.


41 posted on 12/12/2009 12:48:28 PM PST by Joe Boucher (This marxist punk has got to go.)
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To: Joe Boucher
go piss up a rope there jerky boy.
What I’ve said is true I’ve not reason to lie.
Where as you seem to pull pooh out of your gym buddies rears.

Wow! Such sophisticated talk. You must be proud of the great intellectual prowess you have displayed on this thread!

ML/NJ

42 posted on 12/12/2009 1:13:04 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Scanian

That is interesting. How do the different terrorist groups communicate?


43 posted on 12/12/2009 6:46:12 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cyn

“If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound.”

Don’t you sometimes feel like you are living in the Soviet Union? Back in those days people had to rely on rumor rather than official news sources to get some inkling of what was really going on.


44 posted on 12/12/2009 6:54:44 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom
Yes, you're right! I have always been so thankful that I can walk into any store and easily find the things we need and want. Now I can't even buy a simple 60W lightbulb; someone has decided that what I really need instead is a 52W!

More:

Flashback: AirTran flight 175 -- posted Sun, 12.6.09 to Canada Free Press by Doug Hagmann. I cannot find any FR archived info re: flight 175.

FR archives: flight1824

FBI and TSA Involved in Delta Flight 1824 -- 9.10.07 -- Annie Jacobsen, of Northwest flight 327

Over the weekend, Douglas Hagmann, Director of the Northeast Intelligence Network, reported on an incident, Delta Airlines Flight 1824, involving a large group of Middle Eastern passengers, male and female, who were flying from Orlando, Florida to Atlanta, Georgia. Sources told Hagmann the passengers' bags tested positive for SEMTEX explosives at a TSA security checkpoint and were taken away by the FBI. Over the weekend, I spoke to Hagmann, as well as with one of his sources.

Just now, I had a lengthy conversation with TSA Spokesman Christopher White who confirmed the incident. Here's what White told me about Delta Airlines Flight 1824:

"We ID'd twelve passengers at the checkpoint with suspicious items. Yes, there was a positive hit, I can't get into the level of detail of what or what wasn't a match. We immediately closed two checkpoint lanes and called in a TSA Bomb Appraisal Officer who determined, 'yes, these are suspicious.' We called in three TSA canine teams to come to the check point and the FBI was called as well… The FBI took over from there. I can't comment on the FBI."

I asked White to explain what a "TSA Bomb Appraisal Officer" is.

"A highly trained professional in TSA with specific training on bomb detection. There are two schools in the country, Navy and FBI, who train at this level. TSA's Bomb Appraisal Officers are trained this way."

Doesn't sound like the kind of professional who would sound a false alarm. So why did the FBI tell the Orlando Sentinel the event was "benign?"

An agent at the FBI's Tampa office said the suspicious items turned out to be a bottle that had been covered with tape to prevent leaking. The flight ultimately took off about 10:20 a.m. without the two families, who were still undergoing FBI questioning. They were ultimately released. "It was all benign," said Dave Couvertier, the FBI agent.

Released to whom? I called ICE to find out if reports were correct, that one or more of the men were carrying fraudulent travel documents, which would be a violation of the Homeland Security Act of 2002. ICE is checking for me.

As for the TSA's role in the incident, Spokesman Christopher White described the situation as an example of TSA working quickly with law enforcement officials to identify and address suspicious behavior, suspicious items, and "anomalies" among airline passengers. White explained: "Once we ID'd the suspicious passengers to law enforcement we called back the plane. The flight was taxing [on the runway] so we asked Delta to pull back. We re-screened everything and everyone [of the passengers] including the plane."

I asked Christopher White why the TSA was so forthcoming with the information about Delta Flight 1824. "It's part of our general shift within the agency toward transparency. We recognize that we're accountable to the taxpayer. We need the public's help." [bold mine]

Will the FBI be as transparent? FBI has not returned calls.


45 posted on 12/12/2009 7:56:24 PM PST by cyn (Courage is not the absence of fear, but the mastery of it. ~Mark Twain)
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To: ml/nj

Go play with your gym buds there jersey jerkey boy.


46 posted on 12/13/2009 4:04:02 AM PST by Joe Boucher (This marxist punk has got to go.)
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To: Joe Boucher
I have several Airline pilots where I live. I have asked each about this incident and they all say the moosies are trying this crap EVERY day and not too much gets done about it.

Not good news!

47 posted on 12/13/2009 4:21:43 AM PST by GOPJ (Journalists as BaghdadBobLite - Global Warming Scientists as ElmerGantry - what's happening?)
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To: Canedawg
...all they are waiting for is for those of us who are old enough to know what America used to be to die off and then it’s Katie-bar-the-door.

Rush is right...

48 posted on 12/13/2009 4:26:52 AM PST by GOPJ (Journalists as BaghdadBobLite - Global Warming Scientists as ElmerGantry - what's happening?)
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To: cradle of freedom
Don’t you sometimes feel like you are living in the Soviet Union? Back in those days people had to rely on rumor rather than official news sources to get some inkling of what was really going on.

If there's another terrorists attack, it'll be Fort Hood all over again - with journalist and Janet looking to defend Muslims from critics.

49 posted on 12/13/2009 4:29:09 AM PST by GOPJ (Journalists as BaghdadBobLite - Global Warming Scientists as ElmerGantry - what's happening?)
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To: GOPJ

NOpe,
kind of scary.


50 posted on 12/13/2009 4:32:55 AM PST by Joe Boucher (This marxist punk has got to go.)
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To: Joe Boucher
Another savvy intellectual comment. You must be so proud.

ML/NJ

51 posted on 12/13/2009 5:48:35 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: GOPJ

That is when the #*!% is going to hit the fan!


52 posted on 12/13/2009 2:43:45 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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