Posted on 12/10/2009 9:27:31 AM PST by kristinn
Five young American Muslims arrested in Pakistan met with representatives of an al-Qaida linked group and asked for training but were turned down because they lacked references from trusted militants, a Pakistani law enforcement official said Thursday.
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Javed Islam, a regional police chief in Pakistan, said the men wanted to join militants in the country's tribal area before crossing into Afghanistan and said they met with a banned military organization, Jaish-e-Mohammed in Hyderabad, and with representatives of a related group, Jamat-ud-Dawa, in Lahore.
Another law enforcement official, Usman Anwar, the local police chief in Sargodha, told The Associated Press that the five are "directly connected" to the al-Qaida terrorist network.
"They are proudly saying they are here for jihad" or holy war, Anwar said.
The men used the social networking site Facebook and the Internet video site YouTube to try to connect with extremist groups in Pakistan, said S.M. Imran Gardezi, the press minister at the Pakistani Embassy in Washington. When they arrived in Pakistan, they took that effort to the street.
"They were trying to link up to some groups, but there is no evidence for now that there was a definite plan," Gardezi said.
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Another break in the case came not from federal agents or spies, but parents worried their sons may have made a terrible decision.
The families, based in the northern Virginia and Washington, D.C., area, were particularly concerned after watching what is described as a disturbing farewell video from the young men, showing scenes of war and casualties and saying Muslims must be defended.
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One of Zamzam's younger brothers, interviewed at the family's Alexandria, Va., apartment, said Zamzam has a 4.0 grade-point average.
"He's a good guy," the brother said, identifying himself only by a nickname, "Zam." "He's a normal Joe."
(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...
That place must be the most racist institution in world history.
All I want for Christmas is to join jihad? what gives with these idiots?
Their Amish, right?
Those two sentences explain a lot.
This SHOULD put to rest the old tired out argument of how well second generation ‘immigrants’ are ‘assimilating’ to our culture. NOT the current crop of immigrants...the latino anchor babies are working this country for Mexican drug cartels and the jihadists are going to muslim countries to learn how to kill the rest of us! No allegiance is required any longer to be in this country, and this is the result.
Do remember, these 5 kids aren’t the only ones...there have been others recently.
Here is an email from Mike Cutler about this article and the FAILURE of our entire immigration system (USCIS), the lack of vetting, etc.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2404517/posts?page=15#15
He’s a normal Mad Mo’.
It causes those afflicted with it to conduct acts of horrific violence and destruction, and those who do not conduct such acts may be known to support such evil acts in private conversation.
Such is the case with the legions of muslims who privately support Al Qaeda's terrorist attacks against the American people. For it is Islam itself that advocates death and destruction to any person who refuse to become part of it.
While many are not manning a gun for the terrorist groups, they are ideologically in bed with them.
This is their instruction from both their imams and the koran itself.
“He’s a normal Joe Jihad”.
I don’t buy that these guys were all American boys who all of the sudden on a whim got radicalized and went to Pakistan to get Al Quada terrorist training. You don’t go from one day being the all American kid to being an Islamo Fascist.
Yeah, these guys aren’t Americans. They might be U.S. citizens, but they’re not American.
Sure. All Americans want to go to Pakistan and enlist in a Muslim militia.
I was alternately told that these sites were (A) fluff and (B) used only by sex offenders. Maybe the media and law enforcement need to take notice of the new media.
“He’s a normal Joe”
No, actually he’s a normal Jaish-e-Mohammed.
My bad.
He’s a normal Zamzam!
Zamzam !!!
Ya can’t make this stuff up!
“He’s just your normal, everyday next-door jihadi.”
“Yeah, these guys aren’t Americans. They might be U.S. citizens, but they’re not American.”
Exactly the problem.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2362258/posts
* An overwhelming majority (69 percent) of people in Mexico thought that the primary loyalty of Mexican-Americans (Mexico- and U.S.-born) should be to Mexico. Just 20 percent said it should be to the United States. The rest were unsure.
And Muslims...they regard Islam first, America second:
“Still, the poll found “pockets of sympathy for extremism” particularly among African Americans and young Muslims, said Andrew Kohut, head of the Pew Research Center.....Native-born African American Muslims, who represent about 20 percent of the total Muslim population, are its most disillusioned segment, the report shows. They are more skeptical than foreign-born Muslims of the idea that hard work pays off. About 13 percent are satisfied with the way things are going, compared with 29 percent of other native-born Muslims and 45 percent of Muslim immigrants.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/22/AR2007052201463_2.html
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