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Exposed: Virginia Tech officials took care of themselves ...
Buckey Firearms Association ^ | 9 December, 2009 | Jim Irvine

Posted on 12/10/2009 4:10:07 AM PST by marktwain

New evidence about the 2007 Virginia Tech killings shed new light on the arrogance and hypritical stance of University leaders. The murder of 32 students was the worst mass shooting in U.S. history until the Ft. Hood massacre last month and remains the worst school shooting ever on U.S. soil.

Virginia Tech is no stranger to violence. They had two shootings in the 2006-2007 school year. A student worried about the possibility of another shooting asked school officials to reconsider their "no guns" policy. School officials not only a href="http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/3669" target="_blank">rebuffed and mocked that request, they also cheered the defeat of a bill that would have allowed their students to defend their own lives with a gun on campus.

Soon after, in the middle of a killing spree, when their concern should have been focused 100% on the very students they rendered helpless, school officials focused on themselves and their families, waiting over an hour to share information with the students who would soon die.

From the Associated Press:

Some Virginia Tech officials warned their own families and the president's office was locked down well before a campus-wide alert was issued in the 2007 slayings of 32 people, according to a revised state report that details new fumbles in the response to the worst mass shooting in U.S. history.

One student survived several hours after being shot without anyone notifying her family until she had died, said the updated report, released Friday.

At least two officials with a crisis response team called their family members after the first shootings at a dorm and about 90 minutes before the all-campus alert was issued at 9:26 a.m.. The president's office was locked down at 8:52 a.m. and two academic buildings were also shut down before the general alert.

Not just any officials, but at least two that were part of the "crisis response team" called their family members but did nothing for those who were soon to be murder victims. The president's office was quickly locked down, but he didn't find time to even let his students know about the impending danger. He obviously cares a lot more about himself than his teachers or students.

It is widely accepted that nothing is more stressful than the loss of your child. Grieving parents now know that the officials whose job it is to protect those in their care, ignored logic, student requests, and a wealth of evidence in defending their victim disarmament policy. Now we know they didn't even take the time to notify those precious youth who they themselves rendered helpless, of a threat so great that officials secured themselves then called their own family. Nothing could be more disgusting

Virginian Governor Tim Kaine called the actions of school officials "inexcusable." "If university officials thought it was important enough to notify their own families, they should have let everyone know," he said.

To illustrate just how little they cared for the people in their care, consider Emily Hilscher, who was shot in the dorm lived for hours in a hospital. Officials never took time to notify her family of her condition until after she died. What would you give for five minutes with your daughter in that situation?

Again, from the story:

While new details were added and other portions were corrected or clarified, the original report's conclusions and recommendations weren't revised. The first document was critical of communications failures, privacy laws and other factors, and issued suggestions on improving campus emergency procedures and notification systems, mental health regulations, and gun purchase reporting requirements.

Unashamed, Virginia Tech spokesman Mark Owczarski is quoted as saying that "none of the new information merited changes to any of the recommendations in the original report."

Why would they change anything? No university leaders were killed. It is frustrating that the study seems more concerned with the rules that criminals are breaking instead of focusing on the rights of potential victims and how an active killer is stopped. Rather than focusing on "gun purchase reporting requirements" they should focus on single person response. The quicker a person (usually a civilian) responds with a firearms, the quicker the killing stops. Ron Borsch calls it the "clock of death." On average someone will die every 20 seconds until armed response stops the killer. If only a teacher or fellow student were permitted to be that person, many lives could have been saved.

Virginia Tech should allow students with concealed carry licenses to carry on university property. They might even offer classes on firearms, martial arts, or other methods of self-defense. They could be proactive and take steps to discourage killers from trying to commit crimes on their campus. Sadly university leaders continue on the same course that lead to 32 deaths – protect themselves, scoff at students, and make the killers talk as safe as possible.

In a university where the school president and crisis management team secure their own safety and make personal phone calls while a mass murders kills their students, are still employed two years later, it is pointless to think change will come voluntarily. The Virginia legislature should immediately pass legislation granting students with right to carry licenses the authority to carry their guns on campus. Every other state should follow suit. We don't know how to detect and stop this crime before it happens, but we do know how to stop the killing quickly. Banning guns is the problem, not the solution. Changes are needed now, or the blood of those lost will be in vain, and that would be a tragedy as great as the university leaders indifference.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: academia; banglist; democrats; exposed; gun; gunfreezone; gunfreezones; liberals; schoolviolence; vatech; viginiatech
The elitists have always been more concerned for themselves than for other people, all the while claiming power, priviledge, and money because they claim that they care so much for "the children".
1 posted on 12/10/2009 4:10:08 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Don’t VT students have standing to sue the school for violating their constitutional rights to keep and bear firearms?


2 posted on 12/10/2009 4:13:01 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: marktwain

There’s only one way to get through to boneheads like these - affect their $$ flow. Pressure on Richmond should get the ball rolling.


3 posted on 12/10/2009 4:19:11 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: marktwain
The responsible VA Tech dirtbags should be charged with multible counts including being accessories to murder and prosecuted accordingly.

They should also be expecting some wrongful death civil suits coming their way.

4 posted on 12/10/2009 4:20:30 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: marktwain

Gee, lying, hypocritical, cowardly university officials and professors,....imagine that.


5 posted on 12/10/2009 4:22:08 AM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: marktwain

Down on the “Animal Farm” some animals are more equal than others. Oink!Oink!


6 posted on 12/10/2009 4:24:19 AM PST by wintertime
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To: marktwain

The attitude of the VT administration have the same prevailing attitude as does the President and the current Senate and House. Gee, I wonder what party is significantly represented?


7 posted on 12/10/2009 4:51:20 AM PST by vetvetdoug (FUBO, a fashion statement for conservatives.)
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To: bmwcyle

This is a shame.


8 posted on 12/10/2009 5:15:34 AM PST by Apple Blossom (Politicians are like diapers, they both need changed regularly, and for the same reason.)
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To: marktwain
The murder of 32 students was the worst mass shooting in U.S. history until the Ft. Hood massacre last month

The Fort Hood death toll was 13, only about 1/3 the death toll at VT.

9 posted on 12/10/2009 5:44:25 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: marktwain

It is still my contention that all returning military personnel that go to school on GI Bill type funding should be required to undergo training and carry side arms at all times on the campus.

Our military is trained to make better split second responses than any police force and are better marksmen.

As a side note, if the men and women at Ft Hood had been armed, Nadal would not have made it as far as he did.


10 posted on 12/10/2009 5:49:37 AM PST by burroak
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To: marktwain
The rule should be that if you're going to take the weasely PC step of creating or maintaining a Self defense denial zone – aka “Gun-free” zone, than you will be RESPONSIBLE for protecting those you are putting at risk.

If you are going to deny a person's the right to defend themselves you should be LIABLE if you do not protect them.
If you are unwilling to take the responsibility and the liability of taking away a person's basic human right of Self-defense, then you had better not impose one of those idiotic “Gun-Free” zones.

11 posted on 12/10/2009 5:57:55 AM PST by GYL2 (Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson)
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To: marktwain

“Some Virginia Tech officials warned their own families and the president’s office was locked down well before a campus-wide alert was issued in the 2007 slayings of 32 people,”

This is the security we’re supposed to defer to in giving up our right to bear arms? I sometimes carry in places I’m not supposed to, because it’s usually those places that present the most danger. Less than two weeks ago, four armed police officers were gunned down in a coffee shop in Washington state. I respect law enforcement but their ability to protect us is limited. We are each ultimately responsible for ourselves; organized law enforcement is essentially backup.


12 posted on 12/10/2009 5:58:32 AM PST by Spok
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
The responsible
Umm . . . shouldn't that read irresponsible? Don't mind my nitpicking - but it's a pet peeve of mine that the concept of unity of responsibility and authority is so embedded in our language that people who want authority claim to want "responsibility." Nobody wants responsibility, really - tho plenty of people want to have authority. Nobody should be given authority without responsibility - but that is the problem being addressed when we point out that those who had the the authority to punish people (at least, people who weren't on a suicide mission and therefore were outside of the reach of ordinary punishment) for having guns on campus exercised that authority in a way which facilitated the killing spree. The people with the authority pleased themselves but are only now, and only rhetorically, being held responsible for the results - as opposed to the good intentions - of their use of their authority.
VA Tech dirtbags should be charged with multible counts including being accessories to murder and prosecuted accordingly.
. . . not that anyone would hold their breath waiting for that to happen . . .
They should also be expecting some wrongful death civil suits coming their way.
Now that comes closer to being a possiblity . . . IMHO conservatives should be on the lookout for ways to sue "liberals" for their fecklessness.

13 posted on 12/10/2009 8:08:10 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: marktwain

Smells like BS. Burruss Hall, where the bigwigs live, was locked down. No one was going anywhere. The gunman chained the doors shut on Norris Hall to keep people from getting in. I’m not sure what they expected Steger to do. He’s an engineering professor, not Hulk Hogan. By the time the police got in the building, it was over.

But if the gunman believed there was someone else in the building with a gun, it never would have happened. He even searched the floor looking for someone with a gun(like police) before he opened up.


14 posted on 12/10/2009 8:15:39 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: theKid51; ourusa

ping


15 posted on 12/10/2009 9:16:17 AM PST by bmwcyle (When do they collect and jail the homeless when they don't buy their health care?)
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To: marktwain

As usual they were hoping they would be killed last. The mindset of the liberal.


16 posted on 12/10/2009 9:19:21 AM PST by MaxMax (Obamao can't play in the Olympic reindeer games)
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To: marktwain

Universities are run by liberals. Why is this a surprise?


17 posted on 12/10/2009 9:21:10 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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