Posted on 12/08/2009 5:00:56 AM PST by xcamel
Global warming is a religion, not a science. The prospect of governing every action of every individual on the planet in the name of staving off “catastrophic climate change,” and charging especially the U.S. a fee for impoverishing it, makes belief in global warming as tenacious and anti-reason as the literal interpretation of the Bible is to a fundamentalist or evangelical holly-roller. The fraudsters have come too close to their goal of “world governance” to concede not only error, but the lies that sustained that error, as well. They want to rule, or at least see men ruled by others.
Global warming advocates are “creationists” because, in their view, man is the exclusive “creator” of the potential – nay, they say the inevitability – of catastrophic climate change.
It would not be irrelevant, then, to preface comments on Climategate by relating another instance of a furor instigated by religious creationists over a scientific finding, in this instance, the unnecessary carping over the discovery of the Java Man. The following discussion is from the blog site Creationist Arguments: Java Man.
Many creationists have claimed that Java Man, discovered by Eugene Dubois in 1893, was "bad science". Gish (1985) says that Dubois found two human skulls at nearby Wadjak at about the same level and had kept them secret; that Dubois later decided Java Man was a giant gibbon; and that the bones do not come from the same individual. Most people would find Gish's meaning of "nearby" surprising: the Wadjak skulls were found 65 miles (104 km) of mountainous countryside away from Java Man.
Similarly for "at approximately the same level": the Wadjak skulls were found in cave deposits in the mountains, while Java Man was found in river deposits in a flood plain (Fezer 1993).
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The Bible tells you how to go to Heaven, not how the heavens go.
Reliance upon scripture for an outlook upon the physical world has not had a good success record.
We have FReepers who insist upon Geocentricism based upon their “understanding” of scripture. Once you pronounce your own scriptural interpretation superior to observable reality you may as well be a Geocentrist.
You clearly don’t care to research this issue. I gave you a link in my last comment to a fascinating article that explores creationism from a scientific perspective. It argues neither “fixity of species” nor “young age of the Earth.” It really does seem that you’ve gotten your ideas about creationism from grade school and/or the MSM, rather than from ... creationists.
Yes, Scripture is true. When it speaks of history, it is historically true. When it speaks poetically, then it should be interpreted that way. To think otherwise is to have a low estimation of God’s Word.
Oh, and you can cut the insinuation that I’m a Geocentrist Luddite. That’s just juvenile, and neither contributes to the conversation nor reflects well on your presumed faith in Christ.
I get an earful of creationism right here on FR almost daily.
And I don't need to go to creationist sources to learn about science.
Your source was mindless drivel that couldn't differentiate the theory of evolution of species from the hypothetical abiogenesis of life; RIGHT FROM THE FIRST PARAGRAPH.
How does my pointing out that there are Geocentrist FReepers who say things like ‘Of course I am a Geocentrist, all Bible-believeing Christians are Geocentrists’ reflect upon my faith in Christ?
It instead illustrated my point; once you give up on reason in favor of your own supposed infallibility in scriptural interpretation; you may as well go whole hog and be a Geocentrist. You know what YEC creationists say about your faith in the word of God? The same thing you are saying about mine.
Piety is not measured on a sliding scale of how outlandishly you interpret the Bible. Geocentrists are not more devout and pious or better Christians than those that accept that the Earth is in orbit around the Sun. YEC’s are not more devout or more Christian than OEC’s. Those that think all species were created in their present form and somehow cannot change past non-defined boundaries are not more devout or pious or better Christians than those that accept the theory of evolution through natural selection of genetic variation.
“Geocentrist.” You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Ask editor-surveyor, an avowed geocentrist on FR. Of course he also believes that antibiotics kill people and that prayer and diet can prevent appendicitis.
So if you get cancer, it is your own damn fault!
Somatic mutations apparently have nothing to do with it.
I’m thinking being a “humanoid swallowing cetationists” is also a requirement...
;-)
“Walk like a cetacean!”
editor-surveyor — are you really “an avowed geocentrist on FR,” as Wacka claims?
FWIW, I also believe that sometimes people die from antibiotics, and that God sometimes does miraculously answer prayers.
All Biblical Christians are “geocentrists;” that is what the Bible teaches. Unfortunately for Wacka, he is apparently ill-equipped to understand any of the implications thereof WRT physics, and General Relativity. It simply overloads his brain, as it does to many, but the world’s great physicists have assured us that we can choose any coordinate system we wish, and it makes no difference whatsoever as to the physics.
So really, from a purely physical standpoint, it isn’t even an issue. From religious and philosophical standpoints, it of course can make a tremendous difference.
Well, you're famous here for lies and misrepresentations, so this is no surprise. - Why don't you ever just quote what I really said?
AMD, the fact that you do 'research' does not make you a scientist. Your absurdly biased, and dishonest mindset permanently precludes you from ever becoming a real scientist. Just like there's no crying in baseball, there's no lying in science.
In your delusional make believe world where the Sun orbits the Earth, perhaps; but here in the REAL world, not likely.
I can’t figure how to search for specific words in post right now.
When you came out with your cockamamie medical ideas, I talked about my 80 year old mom getting appendicitis and having to have emergency surgery. It was ready to burst. You said that the appendix’s function was to store bacteria.
WRONG.
You said that if she had changed her diet and people prayed, she wouldn’t have needed an operation.
WRONG
I also mentioned about my congenital kidney malformation that gave me the BP of an adult at the age of 4 and resulted in my having it removed. You said that if I didn’t tkae medicine for my BP, I wouldn’t have had to have it removed.
WRONG.
It was in 1961, BP medicines weren’t around then. I didn’t take any medicines for it. It was a congenital malformation. No amount of praying would ‘cure’ that.
You are a kook.
You're an empty-headed idiot! Without the stored bacteria in the appendix, every time you get gastroenteritis your life is in danger.
"You said that if she had changed her diet and people prayed, she wouldnt have needed an operation."
You're also a liar with terrible reading comprehension
"I also mentioned about my congenital kidney malformation that gave me the BP of an adult at the age of 4 and resulted in my having it removed. You said that if I didnt tkae medicine for my BP, I wouldnt have had to have it removed."
See my last statement!
When you don't like the message, just attack the messenger with lies, its an old Drive-by media trick that you borrowed.
I know what you said and I know you are a kook.
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