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Quaker group stops certifying marriages until gay marriage legal
Minnesota Public Radio ^ | December 7, 2009 | Madeleine Baran

Posted on 12/07/2009 5:16:54 PM PST by Salman

St. Paul, Minn. — A group of Twin Cities Quakers has decided to stop signing marriage certificates for opposite-sex couples until the state legalizes gay marriage.

"We're simply trying to be consistent with the will of God as we perceive it," said Paul Landskroener, clerk of the Twin Cities Friends Meeting, in an interview with MPR's All Things Considered on Monday.

The congregation will continue to hold both opposite-sex and same-sex weddings at its meeting house, but will no longer sign the legal marriage certificate for opposite-sex couples. Instead, couples will need to have the certificate signed by a justice of the peace.

"Everything else proceeds as it normally has, except that we will not sign the marriage certificate," Landskroener said.

Unlike many churches, Quakers do not have ordained ministers. Couples are married by appearing before the congregation and speaking their vows to each other. Several witnesses then sign the marriage certificate to pronounce the couple legally married.

The Twin Cities Friends Meeting reached its decision in November after three years of discussion. The group plans to revisit the decision in three years.

"The simplest way to say it is we feel very strongly and very clearly led that in the present time we simply cannot continue to participate in what we believe to be an unjust and inconsistent with our religious testimonies legal marriage procedure," Landskroener said.

The congregation is one of a handful of Quaker Meetings nationwide to decide to stop signing marriage certificates.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: California; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; prop8; proposition8; quakergaymarriage; quakers; religiousleft; samesexmarriage
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That'll show us, eh?
1 posted on 12/07/2009 5:16:56 PM PST by Salman
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To: Salman

You damn hippie freaks, try holding your breath too.


2 posted on 12/07/2009 5:18:15 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Salman
"We're simply trying to be consistent with the will of God as we perceive it,"

But not as He revealed it. Putting one's perceptions over that of the Word of God is quite arrogant it seems to me.

3 posted on 12/07/2009 5:21:36 PM PST by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: Salman

Aw, heck. It’s all George Bush’s fault.


4 posted on 12/07/2009 5:23:20 PM PST by donhunt ("A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own." - Unknown)
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To: Salman

No way would Quakers go for gay marriage.

Shakers, maybe.


5 posted on 12/07/2009 5:25:51 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: Bahbah

Maybe (likely?) they are worshipping a different god.


6 posted on 12/07/2009 5:31:38 PM PST by jtal
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To: Bahbah
These dumbasses p*ss on the grave of William Penn and other great leaders in their movement. The gay mafia does not seek tolerance or even equality. They seek nothing less than to redefine the 6000 year old institution of marriage to the extent that it no longer has meaning. They seek to overthrow the Bible and the Word of God and to make their perverted facade of religion into the de facto state religion.

They can pack all the fudge they want, perform all the faux marriages they want and turn a large portion of society into a modern day Sodom.

But they will not overthrow God, our Heavenly Father and ruler of the universe, nor shall they escape the consequences of their perverted behavior. They can only force the rest of us to share in these consequences if we are willing to go along with them.

7 posted on 12/07/2009 5:32:48 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: combat_boots
The shakers were a celibate religious sect. Men and women lived a communal life in seperate dormitorys. If any of them were married it was before they joined the church. As far as I know they never performed weddings. The shaker religion is virtually nonexistent today.
8 posted on 12/07/2009 5:34:52 PM PST by NH Red
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To: combat_boots
No way would Quakers go for gay marriage. Shakers, maybe.

Absolutely not Shakers. They are sworn to celibacy and are a community of definitely unmarried individuals. Very devout, from what I've learned of them, and cleave unswervingly to the clear teachings of Christ. They are also very industrious and skillful. I wish they were not on the decline, if not already extinct in their purest form.

9 posted on 12/07/2009 5:34:57 PM PST by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: combat_boots
"No way would Quakers go for gay marriage."

All liberal religions eventually oppose Biblical teachings. It's inevitable.
10 posted on 12/07/2009 5:39:34 PM PST by DesScorp
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To: bmwcyle

Never thought I’d see the day....


11 posted on 12/07/2009 5:40:55 PM PST by Apple Blossom (Politicians are like diapers, they both need changed regularly, and for the same reason.)
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To: Apple Blossom

Quakers are worthless.


12 posted on 12/07/2009 5:44:36 PM PST by bmwcyle (When do they collect and jail the homeless when they don't buy their health care?)
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To: combat_boots
No way would Quakers go for gay marriage.

My thought too.

I also never imagined the Mennonites would go for gay marrage either, but I had to attend a funeral in The Rainbow Mennonite Church of Kansas City, and they weren't celibrating the Biblical rainbow.

I was raised Mennonite, and it's stunning how far they've drifted in the 20 years since I left them.

Ninty percent of churches today aren't following the Christian doctrine.

13 posted on 12/07/2009 5:45:49 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Perfection is the enemy of Good.)
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To: bmwcyle

>”Quakers are worthless”<

But they do make great Oatmeal...


14 posted on 12/07/2009 5:46:02 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (All Democrats weren't Slave Owners, but all Slave Owners were Democrats)
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To: fwdude
They are also very industrious and skillful. I wish they were not on the decline, if not already extinct in their purest form.

It was decided that it was against human nature to forbid procreation so the adoption of children by Shakers was outlawed. The survive only through conversions and I think there is only 1 community left, somewhere in Maine.

15 posted on 12/07/2009 5:46:41 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Bahbah

Beware of the false teaching...many will come in His Name...Marriage is a Covenant, given by G-d, between a man and a woman. These Quakers have chosen their own way...


16 posted on 12/07/2009 5:53:44 PM PST by richardtavor
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To: Balding_Eagle

“Ninty percent of churches today aren’t following the Christian doctrine.”

“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. [see John 6:29] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Jesus, Matthew 7:21

Hell will be full of pious and active religionists who are nevertheless workers of iniquity. They do not believe in the one sent by the Father, therefore they are unjustified. Being unjustified even their religious works are works of iniquity for which they will be damned.


17 posted on 12/07/2009 6:00:32 PM PST by vigilo
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To: Salman
St. Paul, Minn. — A group of Twin Cities Quakers has decided to stop signing marriage certificates for opposite-sex couples until the state legalizes gay marriage.

I thought that Quakers actually read the bible. I guess that they have their village idiots, too.

18 posted on 12/07/2009 6:12:38 PM PST by olezip
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To: combat_boots

LOL...and we saw what happened to the Shakers...

I could never understand a culture that said “We aren’t going to allow anyone to reproduce”

Uh, hello...


19 posted on 12/07/2009 7:30:47 PM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Three guesses as to what’s in the oatmeal.


20 posted on 12/07/2009 7:35:13 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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