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United Church of Christ, Methodist, Episcopal, Presbyterians OK Abortion Funding
Life News ^
| 12/7/09
| Steven Ertelt
Posted on 12/07/2009 4:10:53 PM PST by wagglebee
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A collection of pro-abortion religious groups authored a letter today to members of the Senate that essentially places them on record supporting taxpayer funding of abortions. The letter expresses their opposition to the Nelson amendment, released today, to remove abortion funding from the Senate government-run health care bill.
The Episcopal Church, Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), United Church of Christ, and United Methodist Church are the four mainline protestant denominations to sign the letter asking lawmakers to oppose the Nelson amendment.
They are joined by the Disciples Justice Action Center, NA'AMAT USA, the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, a pro-abortion group, The Religious Institute, and the Unitarian Universalist Association of Congregations.
The groups say their position is that there is a "social and moral obligation to ensure access to" abortions "at every stage in an individuals life."
"Reforming the health care system in a way that guarantees affordable and accessible [abortion] for all is not simply a good ideait is necessary for the well-being of all people in our nation," the religious groups wrote.
"Unfortunately, the House-passed version of health reform includes language that imposes significant new restrictions on access to abortion services," the letter incorrectly claims.
The groups call stopping taxpayer funding of abortions "an unfortunate contradiction to the basic guiding principle of health care reform" and a violation of the "moral imperative that unites Americans of many faith traditions."
It identifies the Stupak (and Nelson) amendment as the "selective withdrawal of critical health coverage from women" and "a betrayal of the public good."
"The use of this legislation to advance new restrictions on abortion services that surpass those in current law will serve only to derail this important bill," the pro-abortion denominations claim.
"The Senate bill is already abortion neutral," the falsely claim, adding that it "includes compromise language that maintains current law, prohibiting federal funds from being used to pay for abortion services," even though the language does not do that.
Jewish groups also signed on to the pro-abortion letter, including Jewish Women International, the National Council of Jewish Women, and the Union for Reform Judaism.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; abortion; abortionfunding; bhohealthcare; christianright; heretics; moapb; moralabsolutes; notpca; proaborts; prolife; protestants; religiousleft; religiousright; ucc; umc; unitarian; unitedchurchofchrist
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To: Responsibility2nd; Admin Moderator; SErtelt
The author, Steven Ertelt, has changed the headline (I used the original). I have asked the moderators to change it to the new headline.
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posted on
12/07/2009 5:36:34 PM PST
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: wagglebee
God has definitely taken His hand off of America.
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posted on
12/07/2009 5:37:22 PM PST
by
Citizen Soldier
("You care far too much what is written and said about you." Axelrod to Obama 2006)
To: Responsibility2nd; Admin Moderator
Yes, Mod, pleae change the thread title. United Church of Christ and Church of Christ are poles apart in their philosophy.
To: wagglebee
Thanks wagglebee.
Now I direct my umbrage to the author. HE writes for a Christian website. HE should have known better.
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posted on
12/07/2009 5:43:08 PM PST
by
Responsibility2nd
(Ack, is that the site with "Responsibility2nd"? Some weirdo. ...)
To: Responsibility2nd; wagglebee; Admin Moderator
“Mod: Please change and correct the headline ASAP.
Thank you.”
Agreed. Very misleading headline without the “United” in front of Church of Christ.
The churches of Christ (unlike the United Church of Christ) are about as conservative as they come. Also, they are autonomous congregations with no central governing authority that could make this kind of stupid decision.
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posted on
12/07/2009 5:53:42 PM PST
by
SharpRightTurn
(White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
To: Rosemont
“Many of Scottish ancestry have been Presbyterians for several hundred years.”
My Scottish great-great-great (can’t remember how many) was the first pastor of the first Christian church in MA; his church and home still stand as historical sites; rather proud of that, even though I’m Jewish by virtue of my grandmother’s side of the house. Confusing sometimes.
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posted on
12/07/2009 5:54:09 PM PST
by
Happyinmygarden
(Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
To: Inspectorette; Admin Moderator
Yes, Mod, pleae change the thread title. United Church of Christ and Church of Christ are poles apart in their philosophy.No, the mod should not change the thread title -- as it is cited verbatim from the source article!
My Presbyterian Church in America (PCA) is likewise poles apart from the apostate PCUSA -- but that just means we have a much larger mission field here in post-Christian America.
To: Happyinmygarden
“My Scottish great-great-great (cant remember how many) was the first pastor of the first Christian church in MA; his church and home still stand as historical sites; rather proud of that, even though Im Jewish by virtue of my grandmothers side of the house. Confusing sometimes.”
Wow. Only in America.
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posted on
12/07/2009 5:58:29 PM PST
by
Rosemont
To: Always A Marine
The source has since been updated, thanks to a Freeper.
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posted on
12/07/2009 6:05:21 PM PST
by
sthguard
(The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
To: Guenevere
LOL! I think there are more than the two of us who are PCA. I do feel a need to make a distinct distinction (!) because the PCUSA is so very wrong in what they espouse. It comes from the pit and smells like smoke.
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posted on
12/07/2009 6:10:15 PM PST
by
Jemian
To: Always A Marine
Hey, Bro! I’m glad to know you. Yes, I’m PCA, too, and I agree with you.
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posted on
12/07/2009 6:13:52 PM PST
by
Jemian
To: Inspectorette
“Indeed. It is also a warm and loving church. Our congregation here in my small town is not very large, but it is enthusiastic and joyful.”
Mine is very much the same. We are only 126 in membership, but it is a strong membership. I’m glad that you have a great church. A bit of sanity in this crazy world.
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posted on
12/07/2009 6:31:55 PM PST
by
stephenjohnbanker
(Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
To: wagglebee
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posted on
12/07/2009 6:33:54 PM PST
by
mmanager
(It is time to prune the tree.)
To: wagglebee; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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posted on
12/07/2009 6:35:41 PM PST
by
narses
('in an odd way this is cheering news!'.)
To: narses
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posted on
12/07/2009 6:48:00 PM PST
by
stephenjohnbanker
(Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
To: wagglebee
These murderous bastards need an abortion - a post-birth abortion!
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posted on
12/07/2009 6:58:43 PM PST
by
BnBlFlag
(Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
To: wagglebee
Disgraceful. May Jesus Christ save their souls before they perish.
To: wagglebee
These aren’t Christian Churches. They are simply Lib clubs that happen to hold meetings on Sunday.
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posted on
12/07/2009 8:47:39 PM PST
by
wjcsux
("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
To: Guenevere; Jemian
I am another PCA member. I have been with the PCA since the PC USA started increasing their list to port in the early 80’s.
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posted on
12/07/2009 8:50:44 PM PST
by
wjcsux
("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
To: wagglebee
The Episcopal Church
Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
United Church of Christ
United Methodist Church
And in so doing the signers disavow any pretense of being Christians.
I concur and pray the Christians in these churches get away from there.
Tithing in one of those churches would be the same as paying the tax imposed to provide abortion if this happens.
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