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This is great news.
1 posted on 12/05/2009 7:29:19 AM PST by Delacon
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2 posted on 12/05/2009 7:29:55 AM PST by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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If I understand this correctly, this is very significant. Thank you for giving me a dawning hope and a cautious grin.


4 posted on 12/05/2009 7:37:38 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice. " GKC)
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They’re going to need a hell of a lot more than 3 years to rebuild their models.


5 posted on 12/05/2009 7:40:21 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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How are they going to do this, they threw out all the data?


6 posted on 12/05/2009 7:42:03 AM PST by SouthTexas (God Bless our Fort Hood Troops)
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I'm sure the UN could do it quicker - they must have a reserve set of figures is a drawer somewhere.....
7 posted on 12/05/2009 7:44:51 AM PST by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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Ok, but what models will they use? What guarantee is there that their data isn’t tainted?

Will they make their data and model code available to the public so anyone can take the same data and recreate what they do?

And even if their model shows warming, what proof can they give that it has any relevance to how the real Earth behaves?


10 posted on 12/05/2009 7:51:20 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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I guess I missed the part where they cancelled all funding until the review was finished....

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11 posted on 12/05/2009 7:52:14 AM PST by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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... and during this three year recompilation of data, all we'll hear is 'The World Can't Wait!' from the Warmist cult.

If they're on the verge of it being proven that their god is a lie, expect open warfare.

13 posted on 12/05/2009 7:53:19 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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In my mind, the science behind AGW (even before it was shown to be doctored)was not strong enough to reasonably consider the counter-measures proposed.

The science was merely window-dressing to provide cover for a statist politicial agenda. The frustrating thing for Statists, is that the meaningless window-dressing is now tripping up all their elaborate plans.

16 posted on 12/05/2009 7:58:00 AM PST by Kowdawg
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If they do try to recreate the data set, they had better get the most critical skeptics on board from the beginning. There are major problems with simply accumulating the data set in the first place. Temperature measuring devices have changed significantly over the past two centuries for one thing.

I remember reading a story where they reviewed the British Naval records for temperature readings dating back to the 18th century. Now, the British Navy gave its sailors a daily ration of rum until 1970, so I suspect that quite a few these readings where taken through bleary eyes. I hesitate to overturn the western economic system based on these data.

18 posted on 12/05/2009 7:58:39 AM PST by fhayek
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In other words, they’ve lost their credibility and it will take the “scientists” in other countries 3 years to invent new data to support the original AGW claims. At that time, they will point to the new faked data and announce to the world that they were right even when the original data was false. But this time, they will protect their emails better.

In the meantime, Britain will stand by the original findings until “new” data can be obtained and analyzed.

These people have a level of faith that can only be called zealotry.


19 posted on 12/05/2009 8:05:19 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Question O-thority)
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“All the king’s horses and all the king’s men...”


21 posted on 12/05/2009 8:08:13 AM PST by Crawdad (Obamacare will lead to back-alley physicals.)
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It seems to me that this is good news.

If it takes three years or more to recreate the data and clean up the computer models, then that should delay any politicians hare brained ideas to share the wealth with cap and trade or any other carbon trading system.

If the current temperature patterns prevail, we could have three more years of cool weather and that would make it even more difficult for the “global warming cultists” to push their Marxist ideas.


22 posted on 12/05/2009 8:09:20 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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If they really want some integrity, they’ll ask Bjorn Lomborg to help them analyze and crunch the data. That would be a fitting apology for having ridiculed and ostrasized him after he did his own study of environmental data and dared to tell the truth that the planet is getting cleaner thanks to modern industry driven by private enterprise.


24 posted on 12/05/2009 8:11:50 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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Meanwhile hordes of warmists have plans to build huge bonfires in undisclosed locales and try aiming their magnifying glasses at the sun to reflect them on weather stations. They’re getting desperate.


25 posted on 12/05/2009 8:13:36 AM PST by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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The Rats will just claim that because the POSSIBILITIES as a result of globull warming are so dire, that they had better start taxing us into poverty anyway...just in case.


26 posted on 12/05/2009 8:13:52 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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Hey look at it this way, the data which all GCMs use as their start point(the CRU temperature reconstruction) is a fraud, jiggered up, faked, cooked. So how can any of the GCM models of prediction be true? Sort of cocks up the whole of CO2 driven global warming theory.

But then again, all GCMs predict the "greenhouse hot spot", which no one can find — That sort of makes all the computer models WRONG. In a sane world, that would be the end of it.

And then their is the lefts favorite trick, change the language, words and names. We now know AGW goes from global warming, then changes to 'climate change', and now to it's ultimate resting place FRAUD.

29 posted on 12/05/2009 8:21:31 AM PST by Tarpon (To destroy the people's liberties, you poison their morals ...)
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They want the power that AGW hysteria gives them to seize control of private-industry production and the choices available to people now.

BTTT.

Truly, politicians have no love for truth or science, merely power. When scientific quackery becomes a venue for them to seize more power, then that quackery will be treated as scientific writ.

30 posted on 12/05/2009 8:21:59 AM PST by snowsislander
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We can’t let the MSM win this.

Best ClimateGate clips (show everybody you know):

http://www.BraveNewCommie.com


32 posted on 12/05/2009 8:28:18 AM PST by Islam=Murder (Hitler hated his Jewish side; Omoslem hates his white side.)
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This is the “foot in the door” for opponents to scrutinize the data and methodology of this hoax.


33 posted on 12/05/2009 8:31:01 AM PST by headstamp 2
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