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To: Delacon

Ok, but what models will they use? What guarantee is there that their data isn’t tainted?

Will they make their data and model code available to the public so anyone can take the same data and recreate what they do?

And even if their model shows warming, what proof can they give that it has any relevance to how the real Earth behaves?


10 posted on 12/05/2009 7:51:20 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Brett66

All good questions. One can only hope that there will be a great deal more transparency after this and that others will have freer access to the data and methodologies.


14 posted on 12/05/2009 7:54:17 AM PST by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: Brett66

According to what I was understanding from FOX news yesterday is that much of the data collection was flawed to begin with. New collection stations were coming online as old collection stations were removed.

If you collect data from the middle of farmland for 20 years and then switch to collecting data from a parking lot for even 5 years, the data will be horribly skewed.

Its a little like testing to see how long it takes to drown a mouse by throwing a few frogs into the test. It just doesn’t work.


17 posted on 12/05/2009 7:58:09 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Brett66

Ok, but what models will they use? What guarantee is there that their data isn’t tainted?
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Good points all. For anyone not in the AGW cult, say people who hadn’t made up their minds yet, it will take MUCH longer to rebuild any trust in this tainted pseudo-’science.’ Because of Climategate, even with the undecided naive sheeple it may take decades (if ever) to rebuild the cult’s status.

Of course what really matters is what the facts are - and that is what they are entirely short of.


79 posted on 12/06/2009 10:21:11 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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