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Official Request byCongressmen to See Obama's Birth Certificate-Straw Which Breaks This Camel's Back
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Posted on 12/04/2009 4:47:27 PM PST by cycle of discernment

OFFICIAL REQUEST BY CONGRESSMEN TO SEE OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE WILL BE THE STRAW WHICH BREAKS THIS CAMEL’S BACK

Political analysis by John Charlton

Obama's presidential campaign was hailed for its forceful imagery, but after 11 months the public has come to understand the undisputed facts about him, don't fit the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

(Dec. 4, 2009) — Georgia’s representative in the U.S. House, Nathan Deal announced in early November that he and 10 House colleagues were going to sign a joint letter, asking Obama to publicly reveal his birth certificate,.

The simple enough question was rebuffed and ridiculed by the Main Stream Media, and even the Savannah Morning News, as if a birth certificate was some sort of private journal or diary of past affairs.

The mere fact that the liberals and progressives ridiculed Nathan Deal — whose only interest is to quiet the nation — shows that they have no substantive reason to oppose the request. It further shows that they know that Obama cannot oblige Deal and his co-signatories, for in Democratic circles nothing is a secret.

What will Obama say to Nathan Deal? The answer must come soon. Deal said that he was to send his letter after Thanksgiving. Any delay on the part of Barack Hussein Obama to oblige Deal, will only further erode his political influence in Washington, D.C..

Obama has been effectively checkmated by the concerted effort of public support, publicized lawsuits on the eligibility question, publicity campaigns such as those of World Net Daily and Charles Kerchner to put the issue in the face of liberals on a constant basis, and blogs and bloggers the world over.

If Obama obliges him, then the online image of a Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) provided by his campaign will be proven a forgery, according to the consensus of opinion of citizens who have studied the images posted on the net and found some images of the allegedly same document, contain a HI State seal and some do not.

If Obama does refuses, however, it will only further confirm that he has something to hide.

Palins remark that it is a valid issue and Ogden’s resignation as Deputy U.S. Attorney General in the same week, following the sending of Nathan Deal’s letter, appear to be diagnostic signs that the political establishment understands the risks and imminent crisis about to break. The publicity garnered by the testimony of the U.S. Marine, who goes by the nik, Race Bannon, only further tilt the Obama regime towards political implosion.

Even the pulse of Obama’s political support on the net tells the tale: a lull and quiet among them posting comments at opposition blogs is noticeable. There remain only the violent, the perverse and the somewhat mad to carry on the cheers of “Change,” which were the mind numbing drum beat of the Obama for American campaign, just 14 months ago.

The political momentum of the nation now follows diverse roads to the same destination, and the resulting fireworks are going to be much brighter and invigorating than those of any Fourth of July in many a year!


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; article2section1; bho44; birthcertficate; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; citizen; citizenship; deal; eligibility; hawaii; honolulu; indonesia; ineligible; kenya; nathandeal; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamacrimes; obamafamily; obamatruth; obamatruthfile; passport; usurper
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To: rolling_stone
Upon further reading, I realize that my case is even stronger.

Mama Obama would not have to wait 5 years to naturalize her son. She could have done it immediately upon her return to Hawaii. It's as clear as day in Title III, Chapt. 2, Section 322. Scroll down to page 84 (top-of-the-page numbering; bottom of the page says 86):

http://ftp.resource.org/gao.gov/82-414/00002F05a.pdf

It's not the greatest of scans, but it's legible.

So I think I have totally refuted you.

1) Mama Obama could have easily and legally obtained an nonquota immigrant visa for her son, even if he were born in Kenya, which would have allowed her to take him back to Hawaii.

2)Immediately upon her return, she could have applied for his naturalized citizenship and he would have received it as soon as it was processed. There was very little immigration in those days, so there's no reason to expect it would have taken very long at all.

Ergo, she absolutely no motive for fraudulantly registering his birth in Hawaii.

So, given that we know his birth was registered in Hawaii, you birthers have no case, unless you birthers somehow miraculously forsaw that he might run for president.

421 posted on 12/10/2009 4:28:40 PM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity
Yes, and we know all African newspapers never get their facts wrong./sarcas

Do you really honestly believe that they all were total wrong???

422 posted on 12/10/2009 10:31:27 PM PST by danamco
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To: curiosity
Sheesh I thought you were making progress. Yes you finally found the right section of law that could govern Obie Jr in 1961. It changes nothing. It is an obscure law that required a child (go ahead determine what that meant in the statute)to become a LAPR prior to their US citizen parent petitioning(1961 term, currently the word application is used)for a certificate of citizenship for their child. Generally INS would take several years to process such a petition. In processing it they would have to determine the paternity of Obie Jr and whether the marriage and Obie Jr. was legitimate. (oops secret would be out) This gives her the motive to take the easy way out and have grandma say Obie was born in Hawaii. Sorry no cigar for you.

The scenario suggested was that Stanley Ann went to Kenya with Obie Sr, didn't like it and having to share with Obie Sr’s other wife and decided to come home but couldn't get on a plane due to her late stage of pregnancy. She was short time to do anything so would she have time to find an immigration lawyer to advise her over in Kenya and if she did what advice would he give her? Or did she and grandma just decide to take the easy way and fake it? It makes more sense.

As for Stanley Ann's divorce, she swore she had been a resident of Honolulu Hawaii ..now at at least two years past as of the date of filing for divorce -January 20, 1964 when she had not. She was enrolled at the University of Washington in Spring of 1962 and did not return to Hawaii until probably December 1962 or January 1963, making her continuous residency in Hawaii less than two years.

423 posted on 12/11/2009 8:16:35 PM PST by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: rolling_stone
It changes nothing.

Sure it does. It establishes a straighforward, legal means for which Stanley Ann could have acquired citizenship for her son even if he were born in Kenya.

It is an obscure law that required a child (go ahead determine what that meant in the statute)

LOL. Talk about grasping a straws. Next you'll start claiming that the meaning of "is" is obscure.

to become a LAPR prior to their US citizen parent petitioning(1961 term, currently the word application is used)for a certificate of citizenship for their child. Generally INS would take several years to process such a petition.

Nope. The 1952 Act directs US consolates to grant an immigrant visa upon being presented evidence of maternity and the US citizenship of the mother. All she would need would be her passport and his birth certificate. There was no need to deal with the INS, at least for this part.

She would only have to deal with INS upon her return to the states when petitioning for his naturalized citizenship.

In processing it they would have to determine the paternity of Obie Jr and whether the marriage and Obie Jr. was legitimate.

If he were illegitimate, then according the 1952 law, he would be a citizen at birth and there would be no need for any petitioning.

This gives her the motive to take the easy way out and have grandma say Obie was born in Hawaii. Sorry no cigar for you.

Back at you.

The scenario suggested was that Stanley Ann went to Kenya with Obie Sr, didn't like it and having to share with Obie Sr’s other wife and decided to come home but couldn't get on a plane due to her late stage of pregnancy.

Yes, that's the scenario, for which there is exactly zero evidence. It's nothing more than wild, birther speculation.

She was short time to do anything so would she have time to find an immigration lawyer to advise her over in Kenya and if she did what advice would he give her? Or did she and grandma just decide to take the easy way and fake it? It makes more sense.

Right. It makes so much sense that a 6-7 month pregnant educated woman would travel to Kenya in 1961, just to give birth in third world conditions./sarcasm

And then it makes so much sense that it never occurred to said educated woman that she might be able to obtain US visa and then citizenship for her son legally. It's so unreasonable that she might have called up the US consolate to ask about her options./sarcasm

As for Stanley Ann's divorce, she swore she had been a resident of Honolulu Hawaii ..now at at least two years past as of the date of filing for divorce -January 20, 1964 when she had not. She was enrolled at the University of Washington in Spring of 1962 and did not return to Hawaii until probably December 1962 or January 1963, making her continuous residency in Hawaii less than two years.

Some states allow college students, whose parents are living in state, to keep their residency while temporarily studying out of state. It's therefore quite possible that Hawaii was her legal domicile while she was studying at the UW.

I'm not sure whether this was the case under Hawaii in 1961, but since you're the one accusing her of fraud (not me), the burden of proof is on you.

Also, where do you get the 2-year residency requirement? Current law only requires six months:

http://www.divorcesource.com/info/divorcelawsreq/hawaii.shtml

Can you provide a source for your assertion that in 1961 the requirement was two years?

424 posted on 12/14/2009 11:14:36 AM PST by curiosity
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To: cycle of discernment
BTTT,

Any updates on this front since Dec 4th ?

425 posted on 01/01/2010 5:47:55 AM PST by urtax$@work (The best kind of memorial is a Burning Memorial.........)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
An honest man would be **HONORED** to promptly prove in every way that he is a natural born citizen and eligible to be president.

If representatives from the House ask him to do it, why doesn't Obama just nod his head to his secretary, sign a few release forms, and just do it?

The polls that I have read show that 30% of the voting population and 51% of Republicans do not believe that Obama was born in the U.S. If those who merely have questions were added to those numbers, then that is a **LOT** of people! As the economy tanks, unemployment rise further, and Obama’s approval sinks to new lows, there is NO POSSIBLE WAY that this issue of Obama’s eligibility will go away.

426 posted on 01/01/2010 6:13:32 AM PST by wintertime
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To: JerseyDvl
Nevr in my wildest dreams did I think that our media and politicians would be so damn irresponsible.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Never did I think our **conservative** media would be so damned irresponsible!

Rush flat out lied when he said he didn't know who Phillip Berg and Larry Sinclair were.

And...I hold Ann Coulter in special contempt!

427 posted on 01/01/2010 6:18:36 AM PST by wintertime
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