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Climate e-mail hack 'will impact on Copenhagen summit'
BBC News ^ | December 3, 2009 | Richard Black

Posted on 12/03/2009 8:30:19 AM PST by CedarDave

E-mails hacked from a climate research institute suggest climate change does not have a human cause, according to Saudi Arabia's lead climate negotiator.

Mohammad Al-Sabban told BBC News that the issue will have a "huge impact" on next week's UN climate summit, with countries unwilling to cut emissions.

Other scientists say the e-mails from the University of East Anglia do not alter the picture of man-made warming.

Meanwhile, India has set a target for curbing the rise in its CO2 emissions.

Environment minister Jairam Ramesh pledged to cut India's emissions intensity - the amount of greenhouse gases produced for every unit of GDP - by 20-25% by 2020, "if we get support from the international community".

Saudi Arabia is an influential member of the G77/China bloc which leads the "developing world" side in many elements of the UN negotiations.

Mr Al-Sabban made clear that he expects it to derail the single biggest objective of the summit - to agree limitations on greenhouse gas emissions.

"It appears from the details of the scandal that there is no relationship whatsoever between human activities and climate change," he told BBC News.

"Climate is changing for thousands of years, but for natural and not human-induced reasons.

"So, whatever the international community does to reduce greenhouse gas emissions will have no effect on the climate's natural variability."

Some other countries shared this view, he said; and as a result, governments would not be prepared to countenance agreeing anything that would affect economic growth for many years, until "new evidence" settled the scientific picture.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 0bama; 0bamaisfailing; carboncretins; climategate; co2isnotpollution; cooling; copenhagen; cruminals; donttreadonme; drillbabydrill; globalwarming; gop2010; gorebullwarming; motleycru; palin2012
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Very good news indeed! Obama is going to Denmark to "commit" the US to an 83% in green-house gas reductions, an unattainable goal with our current use and lifestyle. As a result of climategate it looks as though Obama will once again come away from an international summit with no results and looking weak.
1 posted on 12/03/2009 8:30:23 AM PST by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave
daylife.com


2 posted on 12/03/2009 8:31:44 AM PST by maggief
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To: CedarDave

Why do some say ‘hacked’ and others say ‘leaked’? Why aren’t Jones and Mann explaining how the data was brought forth into the sunlight?


3 posted on 12/03/2009 8:33:01 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: maggief
How to win the coveted Nobel Prize...


4 posted on 12/03/2009 8:33:28 AM PST by jessduntno (Take a minute and watch it: -> http://www.youtube.com./watch?v=uoeuh-EGj7s <-)
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To: CedarDave; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; SideoutFred; ...
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FReepmail me to get on or off

Ping me if you find one I've missed.



5 posted on 12/03/2009 8:34:10 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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Other scientists say the e-mails from the University of East Anglia do not alter the picture of man-made warming.


6 posted on 12/03/2009 8:34:47 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Big government more or less guarantees rule by creeps and misfits.)
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To: CedarDave

“It appears from the details of the scandal that there is no relationship whatsoever between human activities and climate change,” he told BBC News.

“Climate is changing for thousands of years, but for natural and not human-induced reasons.

“So, whatever the international community does to reduce greenhouse gas emissions will have no effect on the climate’s natural variability.”

Thank you!

A voice of SANITY!


7 posted on 12/03/2009 8:36:15 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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Again Obama will make an arse out of himself.

Not only will be continue to look WEAK.

We will also Look astonishingly STUPID.

The world will see WHY we suck in Math and Science when compared to the other industrialized countries. Our Science is JUNK SCIENCE.


8 posted on 12/03/2009 8:38:43 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Just mythoughts

For libs, “hacked” is a bad word they use to cast doubt on the authenticity of the emails and data. “leaked” only applies to good things leaked, such as sensitive information on US listening to terrorist phone calls.

In this case, its obvious the information was leaked as it was provided to the BBC about a month in advance of its publication on the Russian internet server. The BBC ignored it so the leaker decided to go to the internet.


9 posted on 12/03/2009 8:39:20 AM PST by CedarDave (FOX news:"Fair and balanced (no matter what the White House says) . We report because others won't.")
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To: CedarDave

Excellent and fairly prescient book, BTW. Recommended!
10 posted on 12/03/2009 8:39:33 AM PST by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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Don’t forget, 0 is a science fan! In fact, he’s actually Spock in disguise (except for the ears lol).

Personally, I seriously doubt 0 has a grasp of math or science beyond the eighth grade level...


11 posted on 12/03/2009 8:41:18 AM PST by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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Could these hacked/leaked emails be the 21st Century’s version of The Zimmerman Telegram?


12 posted on 12/03/2009 8:42:48 AM PST by Ax (Carpe Vinum.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Agreed. I thought of that book when the story broke.


13 posted on 12/03/2009 8:43:29 AM PST by eureka! (God Bless our troops and their families.)
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Climate e-mail hack 'will impact on Copenhagen summit'

No it won't, they will ignore the facts as they have done for the past 20 years.

14 posted on 12/03/2009 8:45:55 AM PST by SouthTexas (God Bless our Fort Hood Troops)
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LOL!

What do you get with a lube?

:oD


15 posted on 12/03/2009 8:46:41 AM PST by maggief
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To: eureka!

The appendix on eugenics and Lysenkoism was worth reading in its own right.

Michael Crichton, RIP! A sad loss at a fairly early age. I wish he’d lived to see the tide turning against the AGW scam!


16 posted on 12/03/2009 8:50:45 AM PST by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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To: maggief

“LOL! What do you get with a lube?”

Boy, there is a joke there, but I am NOT going to go for it...


17 posted on 12/03/2009 8:51:07 AM PST by jessduntno (Take a minute and watch it: -> http://www.youtube.com./watch?v=uoeuh-EGj7s <-)
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“No it won’t, they will ignore the facts as they have done for the past 20 years.”

I doubt it, more from the standpoint of political expediency than any regard for ethics.

I will say, though, that the way the Dem Congress is ignoring public sentiment on a wide range of issues will bite them sooner or later! The 2010 elections can’t come soon enough for me!


18 posted on 12/03/2009 8:52:59 AM PST by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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To: jessduntno

Wonderful post! Thanks for the laugh!


19 posted on 12/03/2009 8:54:39 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: PreciousLiberty

Agreed, again. I read Andromeda Strain at the age of 10 and was a Chricton fan ever since.


20 posted on 12/03/2009 8:59:39 AM PST by eureka! (God Bless our troops and their families.)
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