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1 posted on 12/02/2009 4:35:45 PM PST by Nachum
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They haven't ruined enough motors' rubber parts already?

My outboard motors are gonna be sufferin' again !

2 posted on 12/02/2009 4:37:14 PM PST by traditional1 ("don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage. Don't gots to buy no gas...Obama, he gonna take care o' me")
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Buy corn.


3 posted on 12/02/2009 4:38:33 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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They’ll have to subject any thing they label as ‘scientific’ to complete open source scrutiny after the climategate matter.

The reply to the EPA should be, “You lied about AGW, ergo you can’t be trusted on this either.”


4 posted on 12/02/2009 4:39:42 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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Allowed? Only this administration would phrase this decision in this way. They are going to shove it down our throats.


5 posted on 12/02/2009 4:40:54 PM PST by businessprofessor
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Another wasteful junk science form of energy.

Pray for America’s Freedom


7 posted on 12/02/2009 4:43:03 PM PST by bray (Palin can see the White House from her Porch)
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It would appear, to the casual viewer, that the people calling the shots just love to ride dead horses.

Can’t we get them out of dc because they are insane?


10 posted on 12/02/2009 4:43:46 PM PST by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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Why sure, even the California CARB says ethanol produces 2.5 times the CO2 than does plain old gasoline. Before Schwarzenegger made them take it down.

And according to the US Governments EIA the USA has more fossil fuel resources than any other nation ... So we have to do something to get the prices up for Americans — Don’t you understand, it’s so unfair.


11 posted on 12/02/2009 4:43:53 PM PST by Tarpon (To destroy the people's liberties, you poison their morals ...)
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Does ethanol cut emissions? Give better performance? Cheaper? Cut imports of oil? I am pretty sure the answer to all four questions is no....so WHY USE IT AT ALL?


14 posted on 12/02/2009 4:47:53 PM PST by runninglips (Lame-stream media, ignoring the stories that are too important to cover)
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Typical leftist thinking. Their liberal law didn’t work, so they demand more of the same law that failed. And when that fails too, they will repeat their demands.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result each time.


15 posted on 12/02/2009 4:48:06 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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Trying to turn more good vwehicles into Clunkers.


16 posted on 12/02/2009 4:48:53 PM PST by Iron Munro (Obami I-Won Kenya-obian says: "This is not your Father's America")
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Well, there goes my boat motor.


17 posted on 12/02/2009 4:49:20 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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With the exception of FlexFuel vehicles, running on a geater than 10% ethanol blend will void manufacturers’ warranties.

To err is human, but it takes a government to really **** things up.


19 posted on 12/02/2009 4:51:49 PM PST by Fred Hayek (From this point forward the Democratic Party will be referred to as the Communist Party)
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I drive a 1998, who is going to pay when the lock up the cylinders.

I am sure gas stations aren’t going to have multiple grades setup.


20 posted on 12/02/2009 4:51:53 PM PST by dila813
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I’ve held off buying the 100% pure gas, but if ethanol goes to 15%, then I think I’ll be getting 100% pure from now on...


22 posted on 12/02/2009 4:55:46 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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Hopefully my station will still be selling 100% gasoline then!
I had to use Ethanol blended gas on a trip not long ago. I got about 4 miles less per gallon than I did using real gasoline.


23 posted on 12/02/2009 4:55:51 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Are my guns loaded? Break in and find out.)
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Seems funny to me that the cost of health insurance for the poor is important, but the cost of food for the poor is not. The price of corn affects all food prices. As more corn is taken to produce ethanol, which is not solving the polution problem, food prices will go up for all. It has been acknowledged that ethanol produces more pollution than it prevents, but promises were made and they must force us to use the ethanol.

The Democrats are for the poor guy, except in this. They are in control and could back off on this, but they will not.


25 posted on 12/02/2009 5:02:33 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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...if tests established that the blend would not damage cars.

Why is the EPA even proposing 15% before the test results are in? We don't need Clunker Creation legislation.

31 posted on 12/02/2009 5:45:19 PM PST by vamoose
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The Bush administration, in concert with the Democrat Congress, blithely set a production standard for ethanol in 2010 at 15 billion gallons -- based on fuel consumption in 2007.

Now that the economy sucks and smaller cars are up, while miles driven are down, that 15 billion gallons of ethanol is about 20% more than the market can absorb.

Given a problem solely created by government intervention in the market, the government's answer is...more government intervention.

So, now, we'll pay more to fill up the tank, get fewer mpg, risk more mechanical damage...and continue to do zip for "cleaner air".

A free market never would've made this mistake. Much less repeated it.

The Ethanol Story is a case history of how government screws up everything it touches.

32 posted on 12/02/2009 5:50:01 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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Great! Now I will get even worse gas mileage.
It is all a commie government plot to increase tax revenue forcing car owners to purchase more bad gas to get lower vehicle MPGs.


33 posted on 12/02/2009 6:04:25 PM PST by Chewbacca (My gun has killed less people than Vice Pres Biden's motorcade.)
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This is just another tax hike. My fuel economy went down at the 10% blend and it is forcing me to burn more gallons of fuel. 15% will be that much worse.

This is not about the environment it is about increasing tax revenue at the local, state and federal level. You can use loop holes on your income taxes or work in the underground economy but you can’t escape consumption taxes. Perhaps they are trying to squeeze the recently unemployed masses who might be doing odd jobs to survive?


35 posted on 12/02/2009 6:09:14 PM PST by 2right
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