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E.P.A. Says It Expects to Raise Amount of Ethanol Allowed in Fuel Blends to 15%
NY Times ^ | 12/2/2009 | MATTHEW L. WALD

Posted on 12/02/2009 4:35:44 PM PST by Nachum

WASHINGTON — The Environmental Protection Agency said Monday that it would probably increase the amount of ethanol that gasoline retailers could blend into ordinary fuel, to 15 percent, if tests established that the blend would not damage cars.

The maximum ethanol blend is now 10 percent, except for cars specially equipped to handle higher blends. The agency said it was likely to approve the increase to 15 percent next summer, perhaps for use only in cars of the 2001 model year and later.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 15; epa; ethanol; fuel
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To: devistate one four

There is a mathmatical formula supporting the ethanol mandates:

$=votes=$$$=(2x)votes=$$$$$$$$=votes+[2xvotes]=$$$$$$$$

It’s all very scientific.


21 posted on 12/02/2009 4:53:20 PM PST by San Jacinto
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To: Nachum

I’ve held off buying the 100% pure gas, but if ethanol goes to 15%, then I think I’ll be getting 100% pure from now on...


22 posted on 12/02/2009 4:55:46 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Nachum

Hopefully my station will still be selling 100% gasoline then!
I had to use Ethanol blended gas on a trip not long ago. I got about 4 miles less per gallon than I did using real gasoline.


23 posted on 12/02/2009 4:55:51 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Are my guns loaded? Break in and find out.)
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To: San Jacinto

I get it.

Thanks


24 posted on 12/02/2009 4:56:40 PM PST by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: Nachum

Seems funny to me that the cost of health insurance for the poor is important, but the cost of food for the poor is not. The price of corn affects all food prices. As more corn is taken to produce ethanol, which is not solving the polution problem, food prices will go up for all. It has been acknowledged that ethanol produces more pollution than it prevents, but promises were made and they must force us to use the ethanol.

The Democrats are for the poor guy, except in this. They are in control and could back off on this, but they will not.


25 posted on 12/02/2009 5:02:33 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: traditional1

Not to mention all of the weed eaters, leaf blowers and chainsaws that wear out way before they are supposed to.


26 posted on 12/02/2009 5:08:15 PM PST by vetvetdoug (FUBO, a fashion statement for conservatives.)
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To: runninglips
WHY USE IT AT ALL?

To drive up food prices and starve third world citizens???

27 posted on 12/02/2009 5:20:41 PM PST by webschooner
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To: madprof98

Corn state votes keep the rats in power!


28 posted on 12/02/2009 5:26:24 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: mamelukesabre
" Wont hurt nothing."

Yeah, right. If you've ever taken apart a carbureator or fuel pump, where the rubber is turned to bacon, you'll know.

29 posted on 12/02/2009 5:29:23 PM PST by traditional1 ("don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage. Don't gots to buy no gas...Obama, he gonna take care o' me")
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To: traditional1

What the hell are you drivin boy?!

fuel injection replaced carburetors 20 years ago. no body cares about carburetors anymore except backyard mechanics. And those boys just go ahead and rebuild their own carbs every few years for kicks anyway. No one cares.


30 posted on 12/02/2009 5:36:43 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Nachum
...if tests established that the blend would not damage cars.

Why is the EPA even proposing 15% before the test results are in? We don't need Clunker Creation legislation.

31 posted on 12/02/2009 5:45:19 PM PST by vamoose
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To: Nachum
The Bush administration, in concert with the Democrat Congress, blithely set a production standard for ethanol in 2010 at 15 billion gallons -- based on fuel consumption in 2007.

Now that the economy sucks and smaller cars are up, while miles driven are down, that 15 billion gallons of ethanol is about 20% more than the market can absorb.

Given a problem solely created by government intervention in the market, the government's answer is...more government intervention.

So, now, we'll pay more to fill up the tank, get fewer mpg, risk more mechanical damage...and continue to do zip for "cleaner air".

A free market never would've made this mistake. Much less repeated it.

The Ethanol Story is a case history of how government screws up everything it touches.

32 posted on 12/02/2009 5:50:01 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Nachum

Great! Now I will get even worse gas mileage.
It is all a commie government plot to increase tax revenue forcing car owners to purchase more bad gas to get lower vehicle MPGs.


33 posted on 12/02/2009 6:04:25 PM PST by Chewbacca (My gun has killed less people than Vice Pres Biden's motorcade.)
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To: businessprofessor
Corn state votes keep the rats in power!

Yeah, rats love the corn cribs. We need to get a few ferrets in power.

34 posted on 12/02/2009 6:07:49 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Nachum

This is just another tax hike. My fuel economy went down at the 10% blend and it is forcing me to burn more gallons of fuel. 15% will be that much worse.

This is not about the environment it is about increasing tax revenue at the local, state and federal level. You can use loop holes on your income taxes or work in the underground economy but you can’t escape consumption taxes. Perhaps they are trying to squeeze the recently unemployed masses who might be doing odd jobs to survive?


35 posted on 12/02/2009 6:09:14 PM PST by 2right
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To: Star Traveler

Where can you buy real gasoline? I have yet to see a station offering it here in GA.


36 posted on 12/02/2009 6:11:16 PM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: madprof98
You were asking ...

Where can you buy real gasoline? I have yet to see a station offering it here in GA.

I'm in Tulsa, Oklahoma and there are many stations that have it. You'll see them advertising it with a sign that says 100% gas. And also, the law here says that you have to post it on the pumps, if you include ethanol.

37 posted on 12/02/2009 6:18:33 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: mamelukesabre
"What the hell are you drivin boy?!"

I've got three large tractor mowers, an old Ford 8N, a John Deere, and a Robalo boat with a 150HP CARBUREATED OUTBOARD.

ALL of them have rubber diaghram parts, and my vehicles don't have other-than fuel injection, though.

I have enough trouble keeping cigarettes lit, with the rules for "self-extinguishing" making you smoke them CONTINOUSLY, as they will just go out while sitting in an ashtray, which is another "tree-hugger" regulation that affected me, too.

Where in the Constitution does the Congress have the power to create the EPA?????

38 posted on 12/02/2009 6:41:49 PM PST by traditional1 ("don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage. Don't gots to buy no gas...Obama, he gonna take care o' me")
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To: traditional1

“They haven’t ruined enough motors’ rubber parts already?”

It’s not only the rubber parts ethanol ruins. It also kills catalytic converters.


39 posted on 12/02/2009 6:46:58 PM PST by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I wonder if that’s why my 1987 was originally rated at 27 MPG highway and recently the EPA downgraded the rating to 24 (which is about what I get nowadays).


40 posted on 12/02/2009 6:47:40 PM PST by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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