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Huckabee says he probably will not run in 2012; UPDATE: Tacoma cop killer was freed by Huckabee
The Examiner ^ | 11/29/2009 | Kevin Hall

Posted on 11/29/2009 8:19:40 PM PST by bigred08

The man wanted in this morning's shooting deaths of four Washington State police officers was granted clemency by then-Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee nine years ago.

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To: bigred08

Huckabee is done, the crimes against this guy when Huckabee pardoned him were incredible, he was serving 60 years but facing another 100 years in follow on charges ...


141 posted on 11/30/2009 7:56:16 AM PST by Scythian
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To: hennie pennie

I’ll tell you what...bet you that as of the moment it came out that this cop mass murderer’s sentence was commuted by Huck, Huck now knows he has no chance of winning the Presidency.


142 posted on 11/30/2009 7:59:04 AM PST by txrangerette ("Question with boldness. Hold to the truth. Speak without fear".) - Glenn Beck -)
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To: bigred08

Between the commutation of his sentence in Arkansas, and the various other incidents that have happened since then, there are plenty of people to blame for this guy being out on the street. Apparently, after his commutation, he violated his parole and was returned to jail, only to have charges against him dropped by the district attorney in Arkansas - charges which would have resulted in the guy spending the rest of his original sentence in prison. There are more recent charges which should have put this guy back in prison also. Huckabee may have signed the commutation order, but others also dropped the ball on this one.


143 posted on 11/30/2009 7:59:54 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: manc
I can't stand Huckabee, but you can't hang this one on him. The shooter was released from prison in Tacoma, six days ago, despite outstanding warrants in both Arkansas and WA. He was in for child rape and had been arrested last spring for rounding up his wife and her family, and forcing them to strip naked, at gun point. This is one bad Dude and WA authorities had many recent chances to put him away.

The Democrats in WA are pushing restorative justice and rehabilitation. They are closing prisons and setting up halfway programs for prisoners. The handling of this guy fits right in with the current thinking of the far let governance in WA.

144 posted on 11/30/2009 8:00:09 AM PST by Eva (Obama bin Lyin)
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To: Eva

Had Huckabee not let this violent criminal free in the first place he would still be in prison in Arkansas. So Huckabee is definitely responsible for letting this sociopath free to rape and murder again.


145 posted on 11/30/2009 8:03:51 AM PST by CajunConservative (Obama, You Lie!)
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To: Eva

Of course you can hang it on him.

This maggot would’ve never been in the state of Washington or seen the light of day if not for Huckabee commuting his sentence in Arkansas.

Did plenty of others mess up, too?

Sure.

That changes nothing about the fact that his original crimes were in Arkansas; he would’ve rotted in jail but Huckabee commuted his sentence.

Of course you can hang it on him.


146 posted on 11/30/2009 8:04:10 AM PST by txrangerette ("Question with boldness. Hold to the truth. Speak without fear".) - Glenn Beck -)
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To: Eva

He wouldn’t have a had a chance to commit the crimes you mention if Huckabee hadn’t granted clemency.

It lies at huck’s feet.

SZ


147 posted on 11/30/2009 8:06:53 AM PST by SZonian (Beans, Bullets and Bandaids)
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To: bigred08

Huckabee is toast.

I’m thrilled.


148 posted on 11/30/2009 8:07:41 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: bigred08

Huckabee’s leniency would DEFINITELY be a problem if he were to run.....he will NOT.


149 posted on 11/30/2009 8:12:29 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: CajunConservative
The state of WA released the sociopathic criminal despite outstanding warrants. The fault is with the WA justice system. Huckabee was operating under the same post modernist restorative justice that WA state advocates. WA had many times to get this guy off the streets, but declined. Blaming Huckabee is just not going to fly.

Liberals never want to take responsibility for their mistakes. Let's hear the libs disavow the restorative justice that Huckabee was operating under. They won't.

150 posted on 11/30/2009 8:16:34 AM PST by Eva (Obama bin Lyin)
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To: bigred08

I can’t say that I’m disappointed that he’s not going to run........


151 posted on 11/30/2009 8:17:15 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: manc; CyberAnt
Pegged Huckleberry for a Statist fraud the first time I laid eyes on him.

He had just lost a ton of weight and said he was for a "National program for mandatory physical fitness".

It's too bad that a lot of good and decent people get sucked in by a candidate solely because of their religious affiliations, race, ethnicity etc.

If that were the case for me, then I would have voted for Dukakis as I am a 100% descendent of Greek ancestry and a Greek Orthodox Christian.

It still amazes and saddens me how many people I meet here in Georgia, that despise Jimmy Carter as a political figure but still qualify it by saying "at least he was from Georgia", or "at least he was a God-fearing man", or both.

152 posted on 11/30/2009 8:20:54 AM PST by Yankee (Welcome to Obama's Fourth Reich.)
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To: Eva

No, had huckabee let him serve out his sentence instead of granting clemency he would still be in jail in Arkansas. Every other victim after his release is on Huckabee’s hands. Huckabee released this sociopath against the recommendations of quite a few people. Don’t forget this isn’t the first of his released violent felons to rape and murder.

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/11/29/violent-felon-granted-clemency-by-huckabee-now-sought-in-lakewood-wa-police-ambush/


153 posted on 11/30/2009 8:39:54 AM PST by CajunConservative (Obama, You Lie!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
That distance is niniscule if it was one of your loved ones who got their brains blown out. Fact is, the guy had another 49 years minimum to serve on his 95 year sentence...so those four would all be alive today had Huckabee not granted clemency.

Now, since then, the guy has done plenty else and been in custody numerous times, so those instances also bear part of the burden...but the fact is, none of them would have happened had Huckabee not shown an absolutely, and IMHO, deluded, sense of compassion to such an individual, which ignored the true place that the compassion needed to be directed...and that was at the victims he had already injured and the potential victims he would injure if he was set free.

154 posted on 11/30/2009 8:44:22 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: CajunConservative

You don’t get it, Huckabee was operating under restorative justice and released the guy under the recommendation of the parole board because of the man’s youth at the time of conviction.

Since then, the man has been a constant re-offender and was a fugitive from Arkansas, yet WA state had arrested him eight more times and let him go eight times, even though he was still facing those charges. If you are going to condemn Huckabee’s actions, you must also condemn WA state’s handling of the man, which was much more recent. You must condemn the thinking that put this man back on the street so many times.

From Michelle Malkin’s site:

Clemmons’ criminal history includes at least five felony convictions in Arkansas and at least eight felony charges in Washington. The record also stands out for the number of times he has been released from custody despite questions about the danger he posed.

Clemmons had been in jail in Pierce County for the past several months on a pending charge of second-degree rape of a child.

He was released from custody just six days ago, even though he was wanted on a fugitive warrant out of Arkansas and was staring at eight felony charges in all out of Washington state.


155 posted on 11/30/2009 8:46:44 AM PST by Eva (Obama bin Lyin)
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To: Eva

Huckabee confused his position as governor with his former occupation. He let many violent criminals loose.

It goes back to the lack of good judgment.

http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_06_23_04/huckabee.html

Huckabee, prosecutors go on offensive

___They trade jabs over sentencing, pardoning of killers, other thugs

___Several prosecutors around the state are upset with Gov. Huckabee for grant- ing clemency to violent criminals, but he is blaming the prosecutors for often not seeking the maximum penalty and keeping felons locked up longer.

___Until now, Huckabee has refused to comment on his controversial policy of making violent prisoners eligible for parole– they include murderers, armed robbers and rapists, who often return to a life of crime after they’re freed – but in a statement to The Leader this week, he lashed out at prosecutors for not doing more to keep prisoners behind bars – to which Pulaski County Prosecuting Attor-ney Larry Jegley had this response: “That’s a load of baloney.”

___ “I’m offended as a prosecutor and as a citizen. He can blame the prosecutors, but ultimately he’s the man responsible,” Jegley says. “He’s the only one who can sign on the dotted line.

___ “All he has to do is look in the mirror and say, ‘I let (convicted rapist) Wayne DuMond go free who then killed at least once and probably twice.’”

___ Jegley says the governor ignores the will of the people when he reduces a life sentence without parole that was handed down by a jury.

___ “He has obviously disregarded the jury’s decision. It’s a crying shame that a sitting governor would be so insensitive to victims’ right and disregard the system,” says Jegley, who points to several clemency cases where felons went free and then committed more crimes.

___ In addition, Jegley, Saline County Prosecuting Attorney Robert Herzfeld and others have accused Huckabee of violating the state Constitution when he commutes sentences without explanation. The Constitution requires the governor to give reasons why he grants clemency to criminals.

___ “He doesn’t do it,” insists Herzfeld, who recently had a clemency overturned because Huckabee did not explain why he commuted a murderer’s life sentence.

and there’s more at the link...


156 posted on 11/30/2009 8:57:24 AM PST by CajunConservative (Obama, You Lie!)
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To: PhiKapMom

Yep, PKM...I remember it well! Note, in this thread already there are those that think ‘huck’ should not be blamed for the criminal acts of a murderer that was pardoned nine years ago...even though it was ‘huck’ that did it!!


157 posted on 11/30/2009 9:14:23 AM PST by top 2 toe red (Not supporting a corrupt, Marxist, Socialist President makes me a racist?!? Then a racist I am!!!)
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To: bigred08
I think Huck is a good man, but he is standing in the way of Sarah Palin! He would not get out last election even when he had no chance to win. Sarah is the favorite, yet Huck will take some of her votes, he should sign a long term deal with Fox and get behind Sarah, then I could enjoy his tv show more. Always got the feeling that his show was meant as a way to the WH, he always likes to bring in libs as guests quite often, think this is to make him more acceptable to the masses.
158 posted on 11/30/2009 9:15:32 AM PST by Friendofgeorge ( SARAH PALIN or BUST.)
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To: Tigen
You seem to be ignoring the elephant in the room by that statement...IF huckabee had NOT paroled that killer, then those crimes would have NEVER been committed either!!!

This is NOT a question of which came first, the chicken or the egg!!! Geez!!!

159 posted on 11/30/2009 9:19:22 AM PST by top 2 toe red (Not supporting a corrupt, Marxist, Socialist President makes me a racist?!? Then a racist I am!!!)
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To: night reader

Probably...since it seems that attack ad is on EVERY thread on FR now...or least EVERY thread I have opened in the past few days!


160 posted on 11/30/2009 9:25:44 AM PST by top 2 toe red (Not supporting a corrupt, Marxist, Socialist President makes me a racist?!? Then a racist I am!!!)
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