Posted on 11/29/2009 5:32:56 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
Switzerland appears to have backed minaret ban
Voters in Switzerland appeared to have backed a call to ban minarets from mosques, according to early exit poll results.
By Alexandra Williams in Geneva and Bruno Waterfield
Published: 10:16AM GMT 29 Nov 2009
Thirty minutes after the referendum finished at midday, Swiss television reported: The initiative would appear to be accepted. There is a positive trend. Its a huge surprise.
According to the respected gfs.bern polling institute an estimated 59 per cent of voters backed the ban. A majority of cantons were also in support of the initiative.
A majority have voted for a nationwide ban on the construction of minarets, said the institutes director Claude Longchamp, speaking on Swiss Radio DRS.
For the Swiss constitution to be changed, the majority of the electorate and a majority of the cantons are required to vote yes. A survey two weeks ago showed 53 per cent said they would reject it. Both the government and parliament had rejected the initiative. Commentators had said the country risked international pariah status and a backlash across the Muslim world if a yes vote was achieved.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
Thats one of the theories as to what happened to the Templars that were not rounded up. The Templars were known for their banking system as the Swiss are today. It was also easily defended back then in that pre industrial age.
Do we have any of these abominations in the US?
It’s official! The Swiss have more cajones than we do!
Oh my the sheiks might stop buying Rolexes!
The Swiss are one of the few peoples that actually get to VOTE on just about everything.
And whatever the voters say, that’s the law.
(very unlike another large democracy I could name...)
http://www.euronews.net/2009/11/21/debate-rages-over-swiss-minarets/
Lets talk about minarets. The Turkish prime minister Erdogan said that minarets are bayonets, its well known, dont you remember? Erdogan was quoting a poet who directly compared the domes of mosques with soldiers helmets. He was comparing practising Muslims with soldiers. Its not really a pleasant image. Its a symbol that shows that at the heart of the argument there is political will to take power. Its about the desire to ignore democracy and to establish, step by step, something completely different: Sharia law. And that we will not accept.
He did just that a while ago, and it was completely snuffed from the internet when I looked for it. Thank you so much for finding that quote. It is partly responsible as the reason why Turkey wasn’t voted into the EU. They, at their core, are muzzies 1st and only.
Why would anyone want these koranimals around them is beyond any rational thinking for me to comprehend..
Long overdue in the USA
Do they ban the burqa yet? I sure hope so.
I only hope they never ban political cartoons!
There I fixed it for you.
Switzerland has never seen itself as an immigrant nation. To that end the country makes it very difficult to become a Swiss citizen. Part of the process includes being accepted, by vote, by the majority of a canton’s (more or less equivalent to our counties) voters.
There are all sorts of subtle and not so subtle biases toward foreigners at every level of Swiss society. Everything from wages, supervisory positions and housing are affected. I am not surprised that the Swiss voted to ban minerets. It remains, at it’s heart, a fairly conservative nation despite its embracing national health care and a few other socialist trappings.
Someone mentioned that the Swiss are armed. It is true that they still require national miliary service for all adult males. They are required to keep their weapons at home. But, for all practical purposes, the system is latent. Swiss men used to be among the best marksmen in the world and the country was always proud of that. That’s pretty much history now. The Swiss maintained huge fighting complexes hewn deep into the rock guarding critical roads throughout the country. If you look carefully at the mountain sides as you drive around Switzerland you can see just make out the camouflaged positions that are there. But these have largely been abandoned. Many young Swiss think that most of the world’s armys dissappeared with the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Switzerland is very difficult to attack and relatively easy to defend—even today. Even the German’s, despite surrounding Switzerland on all sides, left the Swiss alone during WWII. Moreover, the country has been very successful at maintaining its neutral status during 20th century European Wars. Even combatants need a conduit for communication during war. The Swiss have provided that service.
a minaret looks like a phallic symbol....
Excellent!!! A country that takes the necessary steps to preserve it’s people, it’s culture, and it’s heritage...
Gee...what a concept...
A tall minaret is a sign of domination of the surrounding area, proclaiming that all land within sight of the minaret is Islamic land.
It also makes a great observation point and firing position over the surrounding neighborhood, which might have been its original point.
“I. Am. A. Robot. I. Repeat. What. The. Commentators. Said.”
“a backlash across the Muslim world”
so basically, threats of violence. CA-IR has done the same thing in the USA before now.
“Who the F are these common taters anyway?”
“commentators say” means “we say, but we’re supposed to be reporters, so we make like someone said it, or we just pay some guy to say it”
Good. And deport all the hate-mongers too.
Unless you let the invaders in by invitation.
It's where the Muslims gather to plan screwing the non-Muslims.
As I said in a prior post, it's height made it an ideal fortified archery position to dominate the surrounding area.
Chains may subdue the feeble spirit, but thee,
TELL, of the iron heart! they could not tame!
For thou wert of the mountains; they proclaim
The everlasting creed of liberty.
That creed is written on the untrampled snow,
Thundered by torrents which no power can hold,
Save that of God, when He sends forth His cold,
And breathed by winds that through the free heaven blow.
Thou, while thy prison-walls were dark around,
Didst meditate the lesson Nature taught,
And to thy brief captivity was brought
A vision of thy Switzerland unbound.
The bitter cup they mingled, strengthened thee
For the great work to set thy country free.
The anti-Minaret posters were banned at gunpoint by the government, and now so are religious symbols these posters targeted - seems that the only thing being defeated in Switzerland is freedom. Islamofascism is a problem, but I will never be willing to applaud the government sticking its nose in this proverbial tent. The ban on minarets is a poor reaction to a real problem, only succeeding in weakening the right to free religious practice and the right to private property. This same power could be wielded to ban or control the design of synagogues (the construction of which was severely curtailed a mere few hundred years ago across much of Europe), churches, or other places of worship deemed unacceptable by any majority.
I do not fear nor hate Islam more than I love freedom. IMO, the battle needs to be won militarily, economically, and (most importantly) demographically.
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