Posted on 11/28/2009 9:49:24 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
NEW YORK Members of one of America's oldest Protestant churches officially apologized Friday for the first time for massacring and displacing Native Americans 400 years ago.
"We consumed your resources, dehumanized your people and disregarded your culture, along with your dreams, hopes and great love for this land," the Rev. Robert Chase told descendants from both sides. "With pain, we the Collegiate Church, remember our part in these events."
The minister spoke on Native American Heritage Day at a reconciliation ceremony of the Lenape tribe with the Collegiate Church, started in 1628 in then-New Amsterdam as the Reformed Dutch Church.
The rite was held in front of the Museum of the American Indian in lower Manhattan, where Dutch colonizers had built their fort near an Indian trail now called Broadway, near Wall Street.
The Collegiate Church was considered the "conscience" of the new colony, whose merchants quickly developed commerce with the world in fur and grains till then the turf of the natives.
Surrounded by Lenape Indians, the Dutch colonists "were hacking men, women and children to death," said Ronald Holloway, the chairman of the Sand Hill band of Lenapes, who lived here before Henry Hudson landed 400 years ago.
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I never came across such a supposition as the poster in question proclaims either - and I have read veraciously on the subjects for decades -
Sounds like theory postured to support the trend to stop nursing - back in the 50’s.
Ummmm, I think you just proved yourself wrong. You might want to read your statement again.
If one woman is not nursing her baby, then another one is...thereby decimating the immune system of another woman.
Actually Europeans and Eurasians always had a substitute available for mother’s milk. That was one of the earliest reasons for domesticating large mammals. They had cattle, and camels, and goats....early native American women did not have ANY substitute.
You still have not sourced this concept of a " because first American women were genetically flawed from there being no substitution for mothers milk and they nursed their babies for years, depleting their immune systems."
That is what I find so "humorous"
But me being ignorant and illerate, I guess you can't expect anything more
Well, if your readings and writings didn’t take into effect proven scientific evidence, what can I say?
I teach sociology...I just don’t play the blame games. Facts are facts.
More PC crapola.
Oh, you might try just ONE of the many sources...a treatise written by Jared Diamond called “Guns, Germs, and Steel” that I use in my classes. This is a good compilation of history of humans based on scientific data. There are many, many others.
You still have not sourced this concept of a “ because first American women were genetically flawed from there being no substitution for mothers milk and they nursed their babies for years, depleting their immune systems.”
Yes Popman, I also would be interested in a source for that statement of Rowdy’s. Let’s wait and see if a source is produced.
Dollars to donuts, it's some off shoot of either multicultural nonsense or a religious spin on why the superior white man was not responsible for killing off the flawed injuns.
Amazing — it has always been tha Catholic Church that has been accused of this.
Yes, I have read Jared Diamond, not that particular book, but have read Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed
If you are getting your education from Jared Diamond I completely understand why you posted what you did.
Try reading actual factual histories rather than quasi liberal multicultural gobbledygook. Not saying his book isn't factual in many places, but if it is written in the same fashion as the one I read, it is heavy on assumptions with a light glaze of moonbattey to support liberal ideologue positions
Honestly, did you vote for Obama?
What’s really funny is that Diamond is not quoting his own science, but the science of others, and in no way is liberal. But do go on...there is getting really interestink.
No, but you obviously did, since you want to participate in blame games against the US.
And what else is really funny, is that at the time of the Civil War the population of the US had grown to only 31 million and people think the puny amount of Americans that landed at Plymouth Rock had the ability to eliminate 12 MILLION ‘native’ Americans! It’s hilarious!
I ask you for you to source your point about "genetically flawed first native women" and somehow that makes me "against the US"?????
BTW, I and several other posters are breathlessly waiting to see that theory.
I provided you with one reference, how about you reading some more scientific research on your own and expand the mind some. It’s out there...you go guy!
Forgot your dripping sarcasm tag I see.
Lucky for us there are no Neanderthals around to apologize to for killing them off and probably eating them.
Better yet — screw the Collegiate Church, quit, and never go back. Better yet, burn it to the ground. US out of North America! ;’) Thanks hennie pennie. Seriously, I’d have let the pastor know beforehand that if he (or she?) went through with this BS, he could go - himself/herself.
Doesn’t bother me, I’m not a Protestant.
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