CRU's Source Code: Climategate Uncovered

American Thinker ^ | 11/25/2009 | Marc Sheppard

[Marine_Uncle]

They no longer have any world class scientist to draw on by all indications. Real scientist, those willing to admit when they where falsely brought into some theory have left. Only the socialist/commie bureaucrats are left with most probably some minor types with any level of credentials in real categories of science.

[Domandred]

Their science is flawed right out of the gate using their incorrect scientific method.

All the time I spent in science classes first you gathered data then made a theory based on that data. Then test theory with different data, recalibrating the theory based on new data. The goal being to prove the theory WRONG.

Their method is create theory, then only include data that backs that theory up, then prove theory with other data that supports it, throwing out data that doesn’t, with the goal being to prove the theory correct.

Without a correct scientific method their theories and findings are flawed from day one.

[Zuben Elgenubi]

THAT is one great movie, red stapler and all.

[Catholic Canadian]

I was looking at the DU and even they’re burying it - I couldn’t find much at all about the CRU hacks there.

[Marine_Uncle]

I back what you had to say. I do not have a degree in programing but after many years working at Bell Labs writing C code, creating huge databases with Informix SQL RDS tools, Unix system administration....blah blah I understand the ramifications of your comments.
All professional programmers use Source Code Control. They have no choice.
The more I am seeing the more I am convinced without a doubt we see within the CRU, IPCC and many other organizations nothing but a bunch of hackers. Non professionals at best, and at worse.......sorry for my poorly constructed French... royal assholes. And these are the types Al Gore would bow down to. And most likely zero would follow in the glint of an eye.

[Enchante]

Don’t know if you’ve seen this comment (below) from “Harry” but he sure does sound incredibly frustrated, noting the “hopeless state of our databases.” I’m no programmer and I’ve just been browsing around a bit in the comments included in the HARRY_READ_ME files posted at the links below, but this statement of despair does seem to indict the whole project of trying to make any scientific use of this incoherent mess of badly recorded and often undocumented data (at another point “Harry” noted that he “hates” this project for the spaghetti mess that has been dumped in his lap):

“OH #### THIS. It’s Sunday evening, I’ve worked all weekend, and just when I thought it was done I’m
hitting yet another problem that’s based on the hopeless state of our databases. There is no uniform
data integrity, it’s just a catalogue of issues that continues to grow as they’re found.”

http://di2.nu/foia/HARRY_READ_ME-35t.html

http://di2.nu/foia/HARRY_READ_ME-0.html

[Enchante]

Would anyone with any sense fly in an airplane engineered with the dishonest and inept CRU approach to data??

These clowns want to rule the world and all economies, yet these emails and docs are showing yet again that the Globull Warming, er, “climate change” religion is one of the worst scientific frauds in history.

Lysenko Affair, anyone?

These scumbags have certainly been trying to outlaw or at least crush all dissent. For nearly two decades in the old USSR it was *illegal* to challenge or dissent from the Lysenko orthodoxy. The Gorebots have been approaching that kind of systematic control of public information and policy on these climate issues.

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Hey, long time, Marine_Uncle! Hope you are well, and Happy Thanksgiving!! (I haven’t been around FR much the past year.... maybe getting back if I start spending more time online again)

[Marine_Uncle]

Like wise friend. The days of Able Danger and other issues have slid by so rapidly. Nice to see you back on the boards.
Hope to see more of you. And may you and your loved ones have a content and peaceful Thanks Giving Day get together.
Glad to see you still punching at the damn Ruskies. Through the years I constantly remind folks the damn commies are always behind all the worst wrongs that come about in this world.
The IPCC are nothing but a branch of the former Soviet Union in most every way. They just wear often, nicer tailored suits. Hopefully zero will be so afraid of the ramifications of these now exposed global warming hoaxes that he just may pretend to be interested at the European Climate Conference and not have the guts to sign any treaty, which he must understand the US Senate would have to ratify.
Getting late. I have to get up early for travel. Do take care.

[Thrownatbirth]

FORTRAN. hey man grandpa used that way back before pythagoras. Hey man, that is a horrible language no one would still use that!!!

I was thinking CRU could claim hanging chads on the punch cards as a defense. Worked for me.

[IGBT]

explains why algore(al gore) would never debate the issue. he knew in his heart of hearts it’s a scam and a hoax. it was easier to let the willing accomplices flack catch while he maintains his “above it all” condescension.

[IGBT]

can we all start calling this thing what it really is?? It’s the carbon-CON.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

It’s the carbon-CON.

That is Excellent!

[john in springfield]

[papasmurf]

Get a rope!

[Humidston]

LOL! Good job!

[Kay]

Please ping me when you get a response. Good post.

[spokeshave]

"Would anyone with any sense fly in an airplane engineered with the dishonest and inept CRU approach to data??"

Can you imagine how 0bambi's health care will work (or not work)....

They are going to keep all our medical records in a hugh data base and use it to make life/death decisions.

There is a theorem in cybernetics that states that the controlling system must be at least as complex as the system being controlled.

That's why AirBus screwed up with their "fly-by-wire" control systems.

[formosa]

I have a question. Scientist I'm not yet my interest is great especially in the field of physics. To the point, in these climate models of theirs, are they or have they ever taken into account the effects of the sun? Volcanic activity perhaps (past or present)
It would seem that common sense would dictate that you cannot have any real debate on weather without taking in some constants like the sun, it's changes and the effect it will have on temperatures.
Volcanoes on the other hand should have some temporary effect.
Am I wrong? If not then what might these effects be?
Thanks allot,
Angela

[aruanan]

To the point, in these climate models of theirs, are they or have they ever taken into account the effects of the sun?

Beyond initially supplying the energy that CO2 is supposed to trap and reradiate, causing global warming? No.

[HKMk23]

Oh, those files are chock-a-block with tasty little nuggets...

~snip~

Just went back to check on synthetic production. Apparently...we're not doing observed rain days! It's all synthetic from 1990 onwards.

~snip~

Yeah, THAT'S the ticket. When you've got no observed data, just make some up! Gotta love that 'science' stuff