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Price War Brews Between Amazon and Wal-Mart
NYT ^ | 11/24/09 | BRAD STONE and STEPHANIE ROSENBLOOM

Posted on 11/24/2009 7:25:35 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

November 24, 2009

Price War Brews Between Amazon and Wal-Mart

By BRAD STONE and STEPHANIE ROSENBLOOM Ali had Frazier. Coke has Pepsi. The Yankees have the Red Sox.

Now Wal-Mart, the mightiest retail giant in history, may have met its own worthy adversary: Amazon.com.

In what is emerging as one of the main story lines of the 2009 post-recession shopping season, the two heavyweight retailers are waging an online price war that is spreading through product areas like books, movies, toys and electronics.

The tussle began last month as a relatively trivial but highly public back-and-forth over which company had the lowest prices on the most anticipated new books and DVDs this fall. By last week, it had spread to select video game consoles, mobile phones, even to the humble Easy-Bake Oven, a 45-year-old toy from Hasbro that usually heats up small cakes, not tensions between billion-dollar corporations.

Last Wednesday, Wal-Mart dropped the price of the oven to $17, from $28, as part of its “Black Friday” deals. Later the same day, Amazon cut its price, which had also been $28, to $18.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amazon; pricewar; walmart
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Between Chicom lovers and uber liberals, I don't have dogs in the fight.
1 posted on 11/24/2009 7:25:36 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 11/24/2009 7:26:01 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Tough choice. I actually like both.


3 posted on 11/24/2009 7:29:15 AM PST by Obadiah (Obama: Chains you can believe in!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Walmart will win.

They are a capitalistic company and don’t play political favorites as Amazon does. Amazon is selective on what reivew is allowed and what review is not allowed.


4 posted on 11/24/2009 7:32:39 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Walmart doesn’t charge shipping and handling. Otherwise, Amazon is more convenient.


5 posted on 11/24/2009 7:32:47 AM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: Obadiah
Easy choice! I shop at neither. :)

But I do wonder how their shennanigans will impact the wider picture of retail in America.

6 posted on 11/24/2009 7:34:36 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I buy a lot of photo gear through Amazon, great prices and fast delivery. They have a lot of items you don’t find in the average camera retail store.


7 posted on 11/24/2009 7:41:01 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: ReneeLynn
Walmart doesn’t charge shipping and handling. Otherwise, Amazon is more convenient.

Amazon does not charge shipping and handling either, if the purchase is over $25 (unless it is from a third-party vendor). I pay about $90 a year for Amazon Prime, and get everything shipped 2nd day air. I get almost every DVD, Blu-ray, CD or book from Amazon. Also, my 7.1 HDMI Surround Receiver, a SACD player and a Blu-ray player.

I almost never have to set foot into China Mart.

8 posted on 11/24/2009 7:48:54 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Make Hasan the new Willie Horton; brand the left as dangerous Diversity freaks!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Personally I think Amazon will come out ahead on this, Walmart might win the first round, But Amazon isn't tied down to first time sales, they will make a profit off of all the small time dealers that they allow to sell stuff through them. Many times you can buy new books for half the price that Amazon lists them for, and even after shipping they are still cheaper then Amazon. My gut feeling is that Amazon makes most of their money from commission of the small time dealers that sell stuff new or use through them. These small time dealers pick up the used books, etc that was sold at Walmart through garage sales and thrift stores and resell them on Amazon, theoritically a book could be resold several times, as used, over the years on Amazon through these small dealers.
9 posted on 11/24/2009 8:05:22 AM PST by ReformedBeckite
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To: ReneeLynn
Walmart doesn’t charge shipping and handling.

They both have warehouses, shipping centers, datacenters and administration. But Amazon doesn't have the overhead of thousands of retail stores and their employees.

10 posted on 11/24/2009 8:11:45 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Obadiah

The great part of this is that either way, the consumer wins, and that is a big plus in this dicey economy.


11 posted on 11/24/2009 8:16:36 AM PST by VRWCer (“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, W Churchill)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
In what is emerging as one of the main story lines of the 2009 post-recession shopping season,

Post-recession?

12 posted on 11/24/2009 8:20:12 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62
More like ‘post-crash.’
13 posted on 11/24/2009 8:25:38 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Gotta move that cheap stuff, just like we moved people’s jobs out of the country to make cheap stuff so that the average American can only afford cheap stuff.


14 posted on 11/24/2009 8:28:33 AM PST by mysterio
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I agree with you..just bought a lens for my new Canon.

Also, my pressure washer gave up the ghost a couple of weekends ago. Had a new gas model from Amazon in my driveway two days later.


15 posted on 11/24/2009 8:33:30 AM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in democrat stands for patriotism)
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To: nmh
Walmart will win.

I disagree. My mother placed an order from Walmart on the web. She received totally the wrong items. The packing slip with the merchandise indicated that she could take it to any WalMart and they would address the problem for her. I told her, I'd do it on her behalf.

TWO HOURS later, she finally got the credit she deserved. The biggest problem was the Point of Sales system in the stores only understood a 9 digit barcode, whereas the code in the packing list was a 12 digit barcode.

WalMart doesn't have the technological background to handle a giant like Amazon. I've been inside their IT department. They are predominately using Perl scripts, and COBOL. Only a couple months ago, they upgraded some of their systems to the obsolete Windows NT.

Mr Peel orders from Amazon all the time. Very rarely, is there a problem. Solving the problem is as simple as filling out a form, clicking a box watching a return label print out on the printer while a replacement item is in the queue to you. An Amazon problem is solved within minutes.

16 posted on 11/24/2009 8:35:40 AM PST by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: blam; muawiyah; SunkenCiv; ReformedBeckite; FromLori; appalachian_dweller
*ping*

FIRST, does anybody need to order anything online from either of these vendors, LOL - cause evidentally, NOW is the time for some fantastic prices.

And SECONDLY....

>>>> "My gut feeling is that Amazon makes most of their money from commission of the small time dealers that sell stuff new or use through them. These small time dealers pick up the used books, etc that was sold at Walmart through garage sales and thrift stores and resell them on Amazon, theoritically a book could be resold several times, as used, over the years on Amazon through these small dealers." <<<<

Does anyone know if there are any MBA studies done on this?? Is it true, as I have read online, and as posited by freeper Reformedbeckite, that Jeff Bezo's fortune is made upon the commission sales of the people who list goods on his site for sale?

Is there THAT much money to be made for simply hosting the sales of others??

IF so, then why doesn't the US Post Office set up a sales site for US citizens to list their garage sale goods, their artwork, their homemade products, miscellaneous goods & services?

They could assign email addresses to specific street addresses, they could verify the residents by I.D., they could ship all the merchandise, and the fraud associated with online sales would plummet.

Wouldn't the USPS start to turn a profit if it did something like this, and at the same time make it infinitely safer to buy & sell online???

17 posted on 11/24/2009 8:40:20 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Sans-Culotte

“I almost never have to set foot into China Mart.”

I’m not sure that Amazon does not get it’s products from China.
Meh, $90 a year wouldn’t be worth it for me. I don’t order that often.


18 posted on 11/24/2009 8:43:30 AM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: ReneeLynn

Technically speaking Walmart, like all brick and mortar retailers, does charge shipping and handling. It’s just built into the regular price so it’s invisible, while mail order places like Amazon put it as a line item so they can list a lower base price.


19 posted on 11/24/2009 8:46:55 AM PST by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar

The nearest dedicated camera stores to me are in Jacksonville, 40+ miles and the selection isn’t good. Last time I was up there the kid behind the counter seemed to be offended when I asked to look at things in the display case. I probably don’t look like the average photographer but I probably spend more than the average on gear. The kid lost a good sale that day!


20 posted on 11/24/2009 8:57:24 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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