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Will Texas’ State Sovereignty be a major issue in the battle for the Republican Governor’s race?
Texas Tenth Amendment Center ^ | 11-22-09 | Texas Tenth Amendment Center

Posted on 11/22/2009 9:35:49 AM PST by RepublicnotaDemocracy

Perry has seemingly begun to build a case of grievances against the federal government. His primary points:

-Current administration is “hell-bent” on socialism Washington is now actively punishing Texas through it policies

-Health Care Bill would eat up Texas’ $9 billion rainy day fund in 1.5 years

-Cap and Trade would cap the entire southern economy Texas may have to reassert 10th amendment protections

I will not pretend to know whether Perry is sincere or if this is simply positioning himself for the upcoming primaries. But that’s not the point… certainly these statements indicate the mood of many of the people in Texas. If nothing else, Texans know that our state, among others, is under attack by the current redistribution-focused federal government. And we know that something must be done…

But are we serious?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: elections; gop; statesovereignty; texas
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To: TWohlford

And, you too will end up with tons of monuments and 100 years of poverty should you try.”

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Whether we’d end up with tons of monuments remains to be seen. I can tell you we will end up impoverished should we remain. The Feds now have two options with respect to our overwhelming debt and the USD. They can either repudiate the debt (never happen) or inflate their way out by depreciating the dollar (which is the path they’ve chosen and is well underway).

The USDX is collapsing against a basket of other rapidly depreciating, soon to be worthless currencies as well it should be. We’re broke and we’re getting broker with Obama only hastening the day. The abandonment of the dollar as the world’s reserves currency and the collapse of the built in demand due to the rejection of the petrdollar is now in full swing. The volatility of the dollar caused by it’s structural deficiencies has rendered it worthless as a store of value and too risky for major oil exporters who formerly conducted all their business in dollars. With the collapse of that built in demand the USDX chart is a wreck. We’ve got a new currency coming whether we stay or go.

With the massive financial issues we’re facing the feds will continue to look for addtl revenue streams from a moribund economy that cannot strengthen due to the enormous debt overhang at all levels. AS they desperately try to stave off the day of reckoning by raising taxes unrest will only increase with secession being an option that will be considered more openly.


61 posted on 11/22/2009 1:17:10 PM PST by bereanway (Sarah get your gun)
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To: TexasAg

Whether it’s a war or not is entirely up to the Feds. However, Fed public sentiment and the current leadership seems to be of the opinion ‘just let them go, we don’t want them here’.

Now would be a great time to leave.


62 posted on 11/22/2009 1:18:29 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Marty62
1st step would be for Texas to sue for return of Fed confiscated land.

Ain't happening. The deal was that Texas gave up all the extra lands for the federal government purchase of Texan debt at the time of annexation. As a Texan I am not sure I'd even want part of New Mexico and Colorado to be incoroporated into our state. It would bring in too many blue people.

63 posted on 11/22/2009 1:26:18 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Only payoff for being a Democrat? They get the illusion that they are intellectually superior to you)
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To: Spktyr
Now would be a great time to leave.

Agreed, and if we could do it without a fight so much the better. With the army and air force national guard, plenty of oil and related processing facilities, and the Pantex nuclear weapons plant in Texas, we'd be off to a good start. I just have a feeling that other states would want to join and Obama wants to be the next Lincoln, so he wants another civil war to "save" the country.
64 posted on 11/22/2009 1:30:49 PM PST by TexasAg
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To: Spktyr
Fed public sentiment and the current leadership seems to be of the opinion ‘just let them go, we don’t want them here’.

Every non Texan liberal (pretty much a bunch of FedEx IT workers) I've broached the subject with has said repeatedly "Just go and take Oklahoma with you"

65 posted on 11/22/2009 1:31:17 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Only payoff for being a Democrat? They get the illusion that they are intellectually superior to you)
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To: Centurion2000

Forget NM and CO..it’s every State for themselves.


66 posted on 11/22/2009 1:32:03 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Centurion2000

Trust me, we don’t want them back now.

Let the Feds keep that land.


67 posted on 11/22/2009 1:45:56 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: TexasAg

Other states may want to join Texas, but we really shouldn’t take them with us - they have no history of independent nationhood and besides we have no idea what kind of messes we’d be importing.

Maybe Oklahoma as they’re essentially part of Texas anyway - but nobody else. Anyone else wanting to leave the US can go form their own nation and make a go of it on their own for a while before we should consider a merger.


68 posted on 11/22/2009 1:49:15 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
Maybe Oklahoma as they’re essentially part of Texas anyway

Agreed, but you can't be the Texan ambassador to Oklahoma. Okies don't like being called part of Texas. ;)
69 posted on 11/22/2009 2:07:36 PM PST by TexasAg
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To: TexasAg

To borrow a phrase:

What Oklahoma wants is irrelevant. They will be assimilated. :D


70 posted on 11/22/2009 2:11:29 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: RepublicnotaDemocracy
Anyone serious about standing up to Obama and his communist genocide upon America should be asking their states to pass This One Simple Law and it's over for the commies.
71 posted on 11/22/2009 4:15:06 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: Spktyr

Every county in OK went for McCain, so not a bad pickup.


72 posted on 11/22/2009 8:41:16 PM PST by mtrott
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To: Marty62
That treaty was already ignored. Don’t expect it to be upheld this time.
73 posted on 11/22/2009 10:08:52 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: TexasAg
court decisions in this country basically say states have no right to secede.

Piss on the courts.

With logic like yours we still be subjects of the King of England.

Nothing in the Constitution forbids secession, and court decisions mean nothing if you can't or aren't willing to enforce them.

The day some communist scumbag in DC orders an attack on Texas is the day this Republic falls.

74 posted on 11/22/2009 10:20:00 PM PST by Rome2000
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To: RepublicnotaDemocracy
Health Care Bill would eat up Texas’ $9 billion rainy day fund in 1.5 years

It will be interesting to see how Texas responds to a Democrat-controlled federal government looting the state treasury that a Republican state government saved, in order to give it to the people of Michigan, a state that the Democrats ruined.

-PJ

75 posted on 11/22/2009 10:28:13 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (Every child will be a natural born criminal until their parents add them to their health care plan.)
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To: Spktyr

I think most people would not want to see Texas secede. It’s part of our country. I love Texas. Lived there for 6 years. What would we do without our biggest, bad ass red state? We need you!


76 posted on 11/22/2009 11:27:01 PM PST by Patriot4ever
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To: Patriot4ever

What would you do without us?

Hopefully travel a longer way down the socialist path we’re on right now until it becomes clear to even the dumbest liberal that it’s a painfully stupid idea - then come crawling to Texas to come save you.

That would work well.

Also, per a recent poll, a majority of non-Texans surveyed want to see us leave.


77 posted on 11/22/2009 11:29:01 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Uncle Sham

No, it just means they have to do a better job faking the evidence.


78 posted on 11/22/2009 11:29:43 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Misplaced Texan

I don’t know what the answer is anymore, but it sure can’t be to lose Texas. Although if they secede and succeed, we might have to move back there....lol.


79 posted on 11/22/2009 11:33:15 PM PST by Patriot4ever
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To: Spktyr

Well that is sad if that poll is accurate. Of all the places I’ve lived, I felt that I was among more people that held my same values than anywhere else I’ve ever lived. Even the hispanics I knew were so conservative. I made some of my best friends ever there.


80 posted on 11/22/2009 11:36:52 PM PST by Patriot4ever
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