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In the trenches on climate change, hostility among foes (and the Global Warming fraud is exposed)
Washington Post ^ | 11/21/2009 | Juliet Eilperin

Posted on 11/21/2009 7:02:01 PM PST by tobyhill

Electronic files that were stolen from a prominent climate research center and made public last week provide a rare glimpse into the behind-the-scenes battle to shape the public perception of global warming.

While few U.S. politicians bother to question whether humans are changing the world's climate -- nearly three years ago the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change concluded the evidence was unequivocal -- public debate over the debate persists. And the newly disclosed private exchanges among climate scientists at Britain's Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia reveal an intellectual circle that appears to feel very much under attack, and eager to punish its enemies.

In one e-mail, the center's director, Phil Jones, writes Pennsylvania State University's Michael E. Mann and questions whether the work of academics that question the link between human activities and global warming deserve to make it into the prestigious IPCC report, which represents the global consensus view on climate science.

"I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report," Jones writes. "Kevin and I will keep them out somehow -- even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globalwarming; hadleycru; warming
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Landru; maggief
M O R E fyi
41 posted on 11/21/2009 11:45:08 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: tobyhill; All
I have a running ( constantly updated as long as new info comes in ) post on this up at our Canadian sister site:

http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=125688
Hadley CRU has apparently been hacked –[epic fraud?]

42 posted on 11/22/2009 3:31:57 AM PST by backhoe (All Across America, the Lights are being relit again...)
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To: tobyhill

bttt


43 posted on 11/22/2009 4:17:32 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: CottShop

“Lol- not gonna let me live that one down eh? :)”

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44 posted on 11/22/2009 7:50:38 AM PST by DBrow
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To: tobyhill
W have the NY Times covering it, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post here -- the dam is busted.

And in the Sunday papers, no less.

The fiction that there is pro-AGW "consensus" in the scientific community is now shattered. And with doubt may come hesitation to commit $Trillions on AGW remediation.

45 posted on 11/22/2009 7:53:02 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Always Right

I’ve been saying so for years and have been called some really hateful names for it. I will expect groveling apologies.


46 posted on 11/22/2009 8:04:01 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Always Right

I’ve been saying so for years and have been called some really hateful names for it. I will expect groveling apologies.


47 posted on 11/22/2009 8:04:08 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Hodar
As an engineer who has worked over 20 years in the field of R&D; I stand amazed that any Researcher would intentionally fabricate his data to support an agenda - it violates the entire fabric of the study - as if data corruption occurs, you have no idea what is really happening in your project.

They took the risk of fabricating data for the same reason that other Obama supporters put on masks and rob banks -- it's a way to make money. And that's why they need to go to jail.

They knew full well that if they concluded that Man had little effect on climate change, that the variableness of the Sun was the primary causative agent, that there would be much less grant money than if their conclusions went the other way. They also knew that they had to suppress dissent in order the manufacture "consensus", to please their political masters.

The rot runs deeper than just these scientists. The rot goes to the core of how research is conducted these days. In any research with political implications, you damn well better get the results that promote further funding. And yes I know that grants are issued by peer grant committees and so on -- the bottom line is that government agencies and Congress decide HOW MUCH and WHETHER grant money exists at all.

48 posted on 11/22/2009 8:06:18 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: DBrow

I thought you were kidding me about how I spelled huge- I’d spelled it ‘hugh’ by mistake lol


49 posted on 11/22/2009 8:48:42 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

lol, no, hugh is a Free Republic meme, like “series” and “beeber”!


50 posted on 11/22/2009 9:22:31 AM PST by DBrow
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To: PapaBear3625

My Mother is a retired nurse; she used to say (over 30 years ago) that MS would have been cured long ago, if there were not a Jerry Lewis Telethon. As long as there is more money in R&D than in the cure; the cure will never be found.

Today, we are predicting vaccies for Altzheimers, AIDS, Asthma and Macular Degeneration. Yet, no real progress has been made on Multiple Scerrosis.

I work in the technology sector - we manage to make regular breakthroghs - becuause if we fail, we don’t have a job anymore. We also have no political affiliations. One would hope that all R&D areas would have the purity that one finds in the Electrical Technology sectors.


51 posted on 11/22/2009 10:55:15 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: PapaBear3625
The rot runs deeper than just these scientists. The rot goes to the core of how research is conducted these days. In any research with political implications, you damn well better get the results that promote further funding. And yes I know that grants are issued by peer grant committees and so on -- the bottom line is that government agencies and Congress decide HOW MUCH and WHETHER grant money exists at all.
The rot is centralized in Associated Press journalism, with its self-falsifying claims of objectivity and its lust for crisis to report.
Journalism and Objectivity

The Right to Know

Why the Associated Press is Pernicious to the Public Interest

The Market for Conservative-Based News

Why Broadcast Journalism is Unnecessary and Illegitimate

4 Advances that Set News Back


52 posted on 11/22/2009 1:46:16 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Anyone who claims to be objective marks himself as hopelessly subjective.)
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