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Live Thread: Senate Debate and Cloture Vote on Motion to Proceed to Debate ObamaCare
Saturday, November 21, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 11/21/2009 9:43:50 AM PST by kristinn

C-SPAN 2 is carrying the Senate floor debate live this afternoon.

The Democrats control the floor right now. Earlier, Republican Senators Judd Gregg, Kit Bond, Jeff Sessions and David Vitter gave good speeches and dialogues on the budget-busting effects of ObamaCare.

Maria Cantwell is speaking now. Mary Landrieu is excpected to speak shortly.

The cloture vote is scheduled for 8 p.m. EST tonight.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; cloture; deathpanels; healthcare; hillarycare; obamacare; obamao; romneycare; socializedmedicine; supermajority
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To: Principled
thanks
61 posted on 11/21/2009 10:10:33 AM PST by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: The Comedian
I'm off to buy more ammo...

Me too!

Another 500,000 people today got the same idea me thinks.

62 posted on 11/21/2009 10:11:58 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: All
Folks may want to check in on the Senate Democrats War Room at Twitter.

You'll find gems mocking Republicans like Judd Gregg:

You can almost see Sen Judd Gregg's blood pressure rising on the Senate floor #senatedebate #hcr about 2 hours ago from web

63 posted on 11/21/2009 10:12:27 AM PST by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: kristinn

64 posted on 11/21/2009 10:16:15 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: kristinn

If we are going to be taxed “to death” for the first 4 yearss without ANY beneifts until the 5th year what is to keep us from voting the traitors out?


65 posted on 11/21/2009 10:16:17 AM PST by acoulterfan
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To: sloop

Cloture (3/5 majority) ends debate, and the next step is a final vote on passage. IIRC


66 posted on 11/21/2009 10:16:58 AM PST by digger48
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To: digger48
so it could be stopped with this vote or the vote on cloture - since both votes require 60 votes
67 posted on 11/21/2009 10:18:47 AM PST by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: RoseofTexas
Too many RINOs will vote for this monstrosity...

What??

68 posted on 11/21/2009 10:18:47 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: All
Today's Senate schedule from the Democrats' Senate calendar:

Convenes: 9:45am

Resume debate on the motion to proceed to HR3509, the legislative vehicle for the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2009.

At 8:00pm, the Senate will proceed to a roll call vote on the motion to invoke cloture on the motion to proceed to H.R.2590.

The 8pm vote will be the only vote of the day.

Debate time will be controlled as follows:

Saturday, November 21
10-11am Majority
11am-12pm Republicans
12-1pm Majority
1-2pm Republicans
2-3pm Majority 3-4pm Republicans
4-5pm Majority
5-6pm Republicans
6-6:30pm Majority
6:30-7:15pm Republicans
7:15-7:30pm Majority
7:30-7:45pm Republican Leader
7:45-8pm Majority Leader

69 posted on 11/21/2009 10:19:41 AM PST by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: faucetman
Trying to stop this vote is a waste of time. IT WILL PASS.
Debate in my opinion will be a GOOD thing. Senators will go home and get an EARFULL. We will have more time to beat them over the head with this monstrosity. Then they come back, we beat them over the head on the Senate floor, Dems beat each other up over abortion, public option etc. How is this not GOOD for our side? Then Reps & Dems & Independents filibuster the bill. 60 votes will be IMPOSSIBLE to get. Bill DIES.
70 posted on 11/21/2009 10:20:07 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: teg_76

RE: “How ‘bout armed tea parties?”

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Agree - sounds good! I’m off in a few minutes to attend MillionMedMarch — doctors against this scourage known as Obamacare.

Here in L.A. it will be at Federal Building Westwood at noon until about 2 — 11000 Wilshire Blvd - east of 405 freeway.

Check their website for other locations around the country.

A few more ‘marches’ can’t hurt as we undoubtedly must look forward to the biggest ‘march’ of all — the ‘millions of citizens’ march on DC when this commie takeover horror passes. It’s not about healthcare, it’s about CONTROL.


71 posted on 11/21/2009 10:21:00 AM PST by CaliforniaCon
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To: acoulterfan
Two republicans are talking the abortion issue now. This is not the subject to push over and over. The bill has so many taxes that will affect everyone. Abortion is used to bash republicans as meddling in lives. One issue politics doesn't win votes or will stop this bill. Abortion will be in the bill whether it is cut out now or not.
72 posted on 11/21/2009 10:22:13 AM PST by Bronzy
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To: sloop

So if the Repubs hold together it is 40 votes plus Lieberman would make it 41. I cannot imagine the insurance companies in CT would be for this.


73 posted on 11/21/2009 10:22:23 AM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: acoulterfan
If we are going to be taxed “to death” for the first 4 yearss without ANY beneifts until the 5th year what is to keep us from voting the traitors out?

ACORN and/or martial law.

74 posted on 11/21/2009 10:23:21 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS

RE: “I’m off to buy more ammo...”

and...

“Me too!

Another 500,000 people today got the same idea me thinks.”

**************

You got that right — after the doctors march against this scourage at L.A.’s federal building at noon today, I am grabbing up more ammo as I really believe we may well need it.

I hope there are stats on how much is sold on a day like today with the vote and all — every time WE are screwed over, we retaliate by further arming ourselves. That story would make great headlines!


75 posted on 11/21/2009 10:24:30 AM PST by CaliforniaCon
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To: Michael Barnes

been looking for one of those myself. i’ll see you there.


76 posted on 11/21/2009 10:25:21 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: kristinn

I’m so confused.

Do they need 2 votes of 60 or not (to open and end debate)?

If so, is it the 2nd vote to end debate where Lieberman will make his stand and filibuster with us?


77 posted on 11/21/2009 10:25:28 AM PST by Drea
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To: faucetman
IT WILL PASS.

I'm afraid that you are correct with this.

If I hear "it's DOA" just one more time....

78 posted on 11/21/2009 10:25:28 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: sloop
so it could be stopped with this vote or the vote on cloture - since both votes require 60 votes

tis my understanding, limited as it may be.

79 posted on 11/21/2009 10:25:50 AM PST by digger48
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To: vaudine

They need another 60 votes to stop the debate after amendments are purposed which is true cloture .
Lieberman has stated he will filibuster the bill if the public option is still included in the bill.


80 posted on 11/21/2009 10:27:05 AM PST by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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