This is a beautiful thing, and whomever released the data deserves a hero's welcome. He may have single-handedly saved America from the Gorebasm.
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
Posted on 11/21/2009 6:30:39 AM PST by maggief
Global Warming is often called a hoax. I disagree because a hoax has a humorous intent to puncture pomposity. In science, such as with the Piltdown Man hoax, it was done to expose those with fervent but blind belief. The argument that global warming is due to humans, known as the anthropogenic global warming theory (AGW) is a deliberate fraud. I can now make that statement without fear of contradiction because of a remarkable hacking of files that provided not just a smoking gun, but an entire battery of machine guns.
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If any of these men knowingly gave false sworn testimony before our Congress or another government body, they could be prosecuted.
They could be nailed on taking grant money under false pretenses if their grant applications contain information they knew was false in order gain support for that grant.
I don’t know about international law, but the fraud of these kooks caused a lot of people and government to invest in technology, etc. and set policy based on their false data and lies.
“If evidence obtained illegally by a private citizen is admissible”
See “The Pentagon Papers”. Those were even marked “Top Secret”.
I think the leaked CRU info falls into the same category, only a lot more is at stake.
Rush mentioned the hacked e-mails, etc. on Friday.
And now for soemthing different, Barry the bastard's Green Jobs czar telling us how he intended to use this scam to fundamentally transform America:
Hear Jones explain his revolution, dreaming of it being bigger than the civil rights movement/revolution
It should have an impact on the health care vote:
What else is the political left lying to the citizens about? (aside from almost everything)
To me what is scary about this whole episode is how far an obvious fraud can be advanced when you've got just a few properly connected individuals pulling the strings. To you and I and many others this was apparent but many supposedly intelligent people bought this thing hook, line and sinker.
If AGW is killed what will be the next great deception to appear on the scene?
This is going to be their line:
From an article posted on Drudge;
“The revelations did not alter the huge body of evidence from a variety of scientific fields that supports the conclusion that modern climate change is caused largely by human activity, Ward said. The emails refer largely to work on so-called paleoclimate data - reconstructing past climate scenarios using data such as ice cores and tree rings. “Climate change is based on several lines of evidence, not just paleoclimate data,” he said. “At the heart of this is basic physics.”
Ward pointed out that the individuals named in the alleged emails had numerous publications in peer-reviewed scientific journals. “It would be very surprising if after all this time, suddenly they were found out doing something as wrong as that.”
“Prof Bob Watson, the chief scientific advisor at the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs said, “Evidence for climate change is irrefutable. The world’s leading scientists overwhelmingly agree what we’re experiencing is not down to natural variation.”
“With this overwhelming scientific body of evidence failing to take action to tackle climate change would be the wrong thing to do – the impacts here in Britain and across the world will worsen and the economic consequences will be catastrophic.”
If the info was on a government (UK) server, the government (UK) already possessed that information! The information will not be tainted if prosecutions proceed. The ‘release’ of the FOIA data merely exposed the information to public scrutiny. The information shows the illegal actions to evade FOIA and destroy government property (data, code, email...)
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Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”
Which lefty in the MSM is going to be the first to break away and admit they’ve been pushing the biggest fraud in history?CO2 never was a problem and all the machinations and deceptions exposed by these files prove that it was the greatest deception in history
There are aspects of US law - famously, McCain-Feingold with its privilege for Associated Press journalism to criticize politicians while it presumes to deny that right to the people - which are predicated on (make no sense in the absence of) the assumption that Associated Press journalism is objective. It is easy to show that that assumption is absurd.To me the issue of holding the promoters of that fallacy to book is of such moment as to make it, in practical terms, the only important issue. Without that fallacy, Democrat politicians would stand naked of defense for a multitude of sins - the Globalony fraud not least among them. Indeed, it would be interesting to conduct a contest on FR to try to call to mind all the frauds perpetrated by AP journalism. The list would include "Swift Boating" as a smear designed to insinuate that the Swift Boat veterans were proven to have lied about John Kerry's war record (see To Set the Record Straight). And the fatuous notion
that there was some reason to suppose that the Duke Lacrosse Team was guilty of raping Crystal Mangum. And "McCarthy as facist" fraud. In fact, Ann Coulter's books are loaded with examples.
- Until Proven Innocent:
- Political Correctness and the Shameful Injustices of the Duke Lacrosse Rape Case
by Stuart Taylor , KC JohnsonAnd it just seems to me that the correct mechanism for bringing AP journalism to book would be a civil lawsuit, preferably claiming treble damages under RICO.
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This is a beautiful thing, and whomever released the data deserves a hero's welcome. He may have single-handedly saved America from the Gorebasm.
BTTT
“Yes, the EU has been collecting carbon taxes for some time now ... wonder if the citizens in the EU can muster enough testicular fortitude to protest this with their elected representatives? ... They’ll prove themselves ahead of American voters if they can.”
We can only hope so. Perhaps we’ll see a few public hangings too. (;-)
bfl
Bump for reference! Thanks.
“They also had a left wing conduit to the New York Times. The emails between Andy Revkin and the community are very revealing and must place his journalistic integrity in serious jeopardy.”
Some of his emails are posted on this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2391090/posts
NY Times: Hacked E-mails Fuel Climate Change Skeptics
NY Times ^ | 11/20/2009 | ANDREW C. REVKIN
Now if there's some other state law that comes into play, it would have to be a local statute. But the cases are legion where, for example, one criminal has ratted another out and provided evidence. No Fourth Amendment problem.
You won't find very many actual private citizens who'll do that.
And if they've got some sort of connection to the P.D., they're not a "private citizen". Off duty officers, for example, are still "the State" for Fourth Amendment purposes. I haven't seen a case, but I would think that P.D. employees and contractors would be in the same boat.
Freelance hackers are NOT state actors.
P.S. - there is no Fourth Amendment in Britain.
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