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Hacker Releases Data Implicating CRU in Global Warming Fraud (Updated)
Pajamas Media ^ | November 20 | Charlie Martin

Posted on 11/20/2009 11:19:32 AM PST by AJKauf

So, has much of the climate change debate of the last ten years been a purposeful fraud? If the files that became available in the last few hours prove to be legitimate, it would appear so.

Here’s the story so far. At 9:57 p.m. on Thursday, November 19, comments were posted on The Air Vent — a well-known climate skeptic site — that read:

We feel that climate science is, in the current situation, too important to be kept under wraps.

We hereby release a random selection of correspondence, code, and documents. Hopefully it will give some insight into the science and the people behind it.

UPDATE: This is beginning to get some attention. Ace notices the same paragraph, and notes: “Keep in mind that when Jones wrote that in 1999 we hadn’t had a decade of global cooling yet. So perhaps he was obscuring a decline in the warming trend?”

It’s been picked up by Rush Limbaugh via American Thinker, and I’m hearing rumors that CNBC may be next....

(Excerpt) Read more at pajamasmedia.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; globalwarming; hadleycru; junkscience
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1 posted on 11/20/2009 11:19:32 AM PST by AJKauf
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To: AJKauf
The players involved will NEVER confess to the e-mails being legitimate.

This will become yet another political football where everyone decides for himself who he chooses to believe.

2 posted on 11/20/2009 11:22:16 AM PST by jpl
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To: AJKauf

Go BABY GO! Let’s hope this sprouts WINGS!


3 posted on 11/20/2009 11:22:51 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: AJKauf

So the liberal’s/dem’s/ main fringe media’s house of cards start tumbling down in rapid succession.


4 posted on 11/20/2009 11:26:11 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: jpl

They ALREADY HAVE!

Philip Jones, head of Hadley CRU confirmed that the documents were legitimate.

Another scientist whose emails are included in the “haul” has ALSO stated that the emails are 100% genuine.

Analysts at several organizations have analyzed the data and have stated that it is NOT fabricated — all email headers, file coding, etc... is GENUINE.

They can’t stop this now, and a LOT of heads are going to roll. Check out all the threads from this morning for MUCH more information...

I’ll post links on this thread in a moment...


5 posted on 11/20/2009 11:26:52 AM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: jpl

Many of the ‘players’ are university professors who WROTE the e-mails on their official university email accounts. As such, they are discoverable via FOIA act and if they were destroyed (ha ha ha, they weren’t they are on a server somewhere, unbeknowest to these fraudsters) intentionally after Steve McIntrye requested them via FOIA then they were criminal acts.


6 posted on 11/20/2009 11:27:34 AM PST by milwguy
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To: jpl

Many of the ‘players’ are university professors who WROTE the e-mails on their official university email accounts. As such, they are discoverable via FOIA act and if they were destroyed (ha ha ha, they weren’t they are on a server somewhere, unbeknowest to these fraudsters) intentionally after Steve McIntrye requested them via FOIA then they were criminal acts.


7 posted on 11/20/2009 11:27:47 AM PST by milwguy
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To: jpl; All

Here are just two of the threads from early this morning — a TON of info. on these including multiple download sources for the .zip file of ALL the info. — fascinating reading...

PREVIOUS THREADS:

Hadley CRU has apparently been hacked – hundreds of files released [epic scientific fraud?]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2390524/posts

HadleyCRU says leaked data is real (Global warming scam exposed!!!!!!!!!!)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2390655/posts


8 posted on 11/20/2009 11:29:23 AM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: pandoraou812

This is juicy.


9 posted on 11/20/2009 11:31:28 AM PST by TigersEye (0bama is our first Port of Entry President - I hope he goes home.)
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To: milwguy

OK, so they’re authentic.

Time to expose the motives and shout it from the rooftops.

Luke 12:2-3
2 Everything that is secret will be brought out into the open. Everything that is hidden will be uncovered. 3 What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight. What you have whispered to someone behind closed doors will be shouted from the rooftops.


10 posted on 11/20/2009 11:31:44 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: jpl
The players involved will NEVER confess to the e-mails being legitimate.

Never underestimate the greed of a lawyer. People paid big money for those studies. Now if the data was proven a hoax they can get all their money back. Governments are hurting for cash at the moment so they might just drop a fraud suit on the enviros to recoup a billion or two.

Another reason is for self preservation. If the politicians turn in the enviros then they can claim "we were duped just like everyone else". Of course that ignores the fact that a lot of us knew this was a hoax all along. It also ignores the fact that they stood to profit big from Cap -n- Tax. But if there isn't going to be a Cap -n- Tax to pay off their bills then they need to get money and save face. And the enviros go right under the big green bus.

Remember there was a time when the politicians were sure that the Earth was cooling into a new ice age. They knew the world would be out of oil by 1985. They knew that we could never compete with the Soviet Union. They knew that the world was going to overpopulate and that there wouldn't be enough food. They knew that the ozone layer was going to go away and we would all die of cancer. Each of those fads created billions of dollars of government studies and radical changes in lifestyle. And when each was revealed as a fraud the politicians all looked into the camera and said "Don't blame us it was those lying scientists." And at the end of each scam a few or in many cases one, fraud scientist was hauled before congress and castigated for duping the poor American people. Not that he or she cared if their scientific work was now the punchline to a joke, they had fat bank accounts to fall back on. This will be just one more case study, while the liberals try to come up with the next scam.
11 posted on 11/20/2009 11:36:55 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: jpl

HadleyCRU says leaked data is real
The director of Britain’s leading Climate Research Unit, Phil Jones, has told Investigate magazine’s TGIF Edition tonight that his organization has been hacked, and the data flying all over the internet appears to be genuine.
.......
Maybe this will help you.


12 posted on 11/20/2009 11:37:11 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: AJKauf

It’s nice to see what many of us have thought was bs all along was bs all along...


13 posted on 11/20/2009 11:44:26 AM PST by b4its2late (Before you can control a horse, you have to break it. Sound familiar?)
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To: b4its2late

I wonder if any of the liberals we’ve all argued with over the last decade will apologize... Yeah, I know — don’t hold your breath! LOL Heck, we can ALL breathe as much as we want now!!! LOL


14 posted on 11/20/2009 11:46:54 AM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: LibertyRocks; Marty62
Holy smokes, I'm in absolute shock right now.

This is basically the nail in the coffin for the entire manmade climate change scam. There is no way the U.S. government is ever going to sign onto an international climate change treaty after this.

15 posted on 11/20/2009 11:48:42 AM PST by jpl
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To: LibertyRocks

Yep and drive our gas guzzling SUV’s all over the darn place!


16 posted on 11/20/2009 11:51:07 AM PST by b4its2late (Before you can control a horse, you have to break it. Sound familiar?)
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To: jpl; Marty62

I want to see Al Gore stripped of his Nobel Prize, and set adrift on a piece of ice in the Arctic Ocean! I think that would be a fitting punishment, don’t you? He could feed the polar bears!

The scope of this fraud is SO vast it’s almost incomprehensible... The TRILLIONS of Dollars in grants for research, etc... etc... The BRAINWASHING of CHILDREN in the public schools who were forced to watch Gore’s movie even when it had already been pointed out there were many, many flaws!

I heard about this before 7 am and I’m STILL in shock, really!


17 posted on 11/20/2009 11:52:13 AM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: AJKauf

Fox News. Front Page.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,576009,00.html


18 posted on 11/20/2009 11:53:03 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: LibertyRocks

I know, I turned to Fox when I saw the posting that FOX had the story.
I just caught the end of the interview. But I thought the womans head was going to explode she was SOOOOOOOOOo po’d.
She talked about the TRILLIONS of taxpayer $$$$spent on this .(crap,my word)


19 posted on 11/20/2009 11:55:30 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: AJKauf

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/20/climate-sceptics-hackers-leaked-emails

http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2009/11/20/hacked-sensitive-documents-lifted-from-hadley-climate-center/

http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2009/11/20/hacked-sensitive-documents-lifted-from-hadley-climate-center/tab/comments/


20 posted on 11/20/2009 11:59:35 AM PST by Lorianne
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