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VIRUS in the VOTING MACHINES: Tainted Results in NY-23
The Gouverneur Times ^ | 11/19/09 | Howard Morrison

Posted on 11/19/2009 12:11:23 PM PST by Howard Morrison

GOUVERNEUR, NY - The computerized voting machines used by many voters in the 23rd district had a computer virus - tainting the results, not just from those machines known to have been infected, but casting doubt on the accuracy of counts retrieved from any of the machines

(Excerpt) Read more at gouverneurtimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: acorn; congress; democrats; hoffman; howtostealanelection; ny23; obamacare; pelosicongress; purgingvotes; ratcrime; unions; vote; votefraud; voterfraud
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To: PjhCPA

Smartmatin owns Sequoia and Bitza was/is the software company that provides programs that drive the machines.

http://www.votetrustusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=919&Itemid=162

“...The interlocking Venezuelan ownership of Smartmatic and Bizta takes on a more interesting aspect when you consider that these two companies supplied the hardware (converted Olivetti lottery machines) and software used in Venezuela’s hotly disputed recall election of president Hugo Chavez in 2004. Despite pre-election polls that indicated Chavez would lose the recall vote by over 55%...”

Bitza Software Venezuela:
SC probes Smartmatic’s shady past | ABS-CBN News Online Beta
30 Jul 2009 ... Laragan presented to the Court a certification from Venezuela’s Consejo ... The report found that Bitza, which partnered with Smartmatic to obtain ... awarded the contract for the machines while Bitza for the software. ...
www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/.../sc-probes-smartmatic’s-shady-past - Cached


61 posted on 11/19/2009 12:48:08 PM PST by WellyP
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

That or the “fill in the oval” ones used in many Texas precincts.


62 posted on 11/19/2009 12:50:02 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Howard Morrison

Haxors!


63 posted on 11/19/2009 12:51:51 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Howard Morrison

Just use a blank sheet of paper with just the offices on it. May they lead an interesting life and no notes.


64 posted on 11/19/2009 12:54:57 PM PST by Domangart (editor and publisher)
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To: sam_paine

It’s the Rhinovirus!


65 posted on 11/19/2009 1:05:06 PM PST by arealconservativeforachange (Tell JD Hayworth to run for McCain's seat! http://www.jdhayworth.com/contact.php)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The first official use of a lever type voting machine, known then as the “Myers Automatic Booth,” occurred in Lockport, New York in 1892. Four years later, they were employed on a large scale in the city of Rochester, New York, and soon were adopted statewide. By 1930, lever machines had been installed in virtually every major city in the United States, and by the 1960’s well over half of the Nation’s votes were being cast on these machines.

Mechanical lever machines were used by 20.7% of registered voters in the United States as of the 1996 Presidential election. Because these machines are no longer made, the trend is to replace them with computer-based marksense or direct recording electronic systems.


66 posted on 11/19/2009 1:05:29 PM PST by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney - U.S. Voting Machine Company’s ...
5 May 2006 ... Smartmatic teamed up with a Venezuelan software company, Bitza, which at the time was 28% owned by Chavez’s government. ...
maloney.house.gov/index.php?option=content&task=view... - Cached

Is there a Bitza/ACORN/SEIU connection?


67 posted on 11/19/2009 1:05:39 PM PST by WellyP
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I don't understand what the problem is.

It is not the problem you don't understand, it is the plan, that evades you. :)

68 posted on 11/19/2009 1:07:12 PM PST by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I don’t know if I’d resort to executions

What is the difference between putting a gun to your head and preventing you from voting; or committing voter fraud? What is the difference between a political coup, or voter fraud? Either way, the will of the people is thwarted by a small group of individuals, who in turn impose their will upon the population.

I view this as more heinous than simply murdering a dozen innocent people; they are denying the most basic rights of millions of people. I don't hold their lives in such high esteem; I say send them to God to determine their eternal punishment.

69 posted on 11/19/2009 1:09:33 PM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Howard Morrison
Ultimately it is the secret ballot that provides cover for the election thieves. You always have a choice between security and freedom. We are surrendering our freedom for the “security” of a secret ballot. There was a time when men (not women) stood up to be counted in meeting halls. There was then no question as to whether each vote was properly counted. We could establish the modern equivalent by posting every vote (name, address, who you voted for) on the web. Nonexistent voters, lost votes, stolen votes would all be easily detectable. But this will never happen: we have been cowed by the threat of retaliation by the thugs.
70 posted on 11/19/2009 1:19:31 PM PST by Ragnar54
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To: Howard Morrison

Hoffman must demand a paper recount for the entire district.


71 posted on 11/19/2009 1:24:10 PM PST by Mariner
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To: PJ-Comix

Bev Harris is only $10 away from uncovering the truth!


72 posted on 11/19/2009 1:28:32 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Charles Henrickson; bcsco; Mr. Silverback; franksolich

Ping!

Go the linked article in the G.Times. Scroll to the FIRST comment.


73 posted on 11/19/2009 2:20:23 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: x_plus_one
Get rid of electronic voting machines or lose the republic. If you think they are accurate you are as gullible as obama.

It is easier for the RATs to alter or "find" more paper ballots than it is to jigger a huge number voting machines.

74 posted on 11/19/2009 2:27:56 PM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: sam_paine
All voting machines machines I have seen are not on line or ever connect to the internet. They can not randomly get a virus. The problem with electronic voting is people don't like the out come and use these excuses to challenge the out come they don't like. A 2nd grader can under stand out to stuff a paper ballot vote. Mechanical machines can be rigged too. The eletronic voting machine with a paper back up is IMHO the best method.

alt last sentence.

The electronic voting machine with a paper back up is absolutely the only method that a sane person who isn't a fool or a crook or some scum trying to steel an election. would use.

I need to put a roof on my shed I'll be back later.

75 posted on 11/19/2009 2:43:16 PM PST by ThomasThomas (Sometimes I like nuts. That's why I am here.)
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To: Hodar
Amazing, no one has heard of a ROM device - program once, and then throw it away.

You mean an OTPROM (a true ROM would have to be configured by having the factory use custom films in its production, which is only practical when making tens of thousands of identical chips). Actually, there's nothing wrong with EPROM or even EEPROM provided that there are clearly-visible and verifiable physical interlocks to control when it is written, and provided that snapshots of the contents are taken at the start and end of the election; each party should use its own equipment to perform the snapshot, and each party should supply digitally-signed copies of its snapshots to all the other parties.

The critical requirement for any decent voting machine is that there be no way for code to execute from anything other than a write-protected storage medium. If the storage medium is write-protected before the election (in a way that could not be defeated without being detectable), each parties takes a snap-shot (and the parties confirm that they match), the medium locked into the machine in such a way that it cannot be undetectably removed and replaced (e.g. by having every party supply a padlock), and if all parties confirm after the election that the code image is unchanged, I don't think anyone would be able to tamper with the equipment.

76 posted on 11/19/2009 3:33:11 PM PST by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: x_plus_one
Get rid of electronic voting machines or lose the republic. If you think they are accurate you are as gullible as obama.

It's possible to construct electronic systems that are more fraud-resistant than paper ballots. On the other hand, it will do little good to have a system where any fraud will be detectable if (as was the case in Washington state's gubernatorial election) those in power are willing to ignore clear and obvious irregularities.

77 posted on 11/19/2009 3:36:46 PM PST by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: STARWISE; maggief

How did the virus get into the voting machines? Had to be inserted by a human.....Who had access to the program? FBI need to be called?


78 posted on 11/19/2009 3:40:43 PM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Bev Harris? Isn’t she of DUFU fame? Or should I say infamy?


79 posted on 11/19/2009 6:54:31 PM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: TexasFreeper2009; Hodar

Whether ROM or simple segregated code, there is always the black box existence of code, some code written by someone unseen.

Years ago, many many years ago in the 2000 presidential elections, there was a huge forum of discussions on this very same issue of electronic voting. The conclusion was and still is that one can never make hidden code 100% free of fraud and tampering.

The simple example used in those discussions was that a machine can be activated to a different subroutine by the casting of a deliberate nonsensical vote.

For example, someone that votes for both Barney Frank and George Bush and against same-sex marriage and who is pro-abortion but against illegal immigration, etc.

When such a nonsensical vote would be cast, a piece of code would detect the specific sequence of nonsense votes and activate a subroutine that would return 2 votes for a designated issue or candidate for every one genuine vote in opposition.

Check sums are easy to defeat if code is written to match a checksum result. Security of paper ballots is even easier to circumvent, as the article describes, there is no provision against stuffing the ballots after the fact and no security for them while they are in a public space..

The whole idea of having nontransparent code govern an election is dangerous. Nothing can make it completely secure.


80 posted on 11/19/2009 7:26:35 PM PST by Hostage
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