Former Nazi indicted on 58 counts of murder

EXAMINER.com - NORFOLK COURTS EXAMINER ^ | November 17, 2009 12:05 pm | n/a

[Cindy]

SNIPPET: "A 90 year old man, identified only as Adolf S., was indicted on Nazi war crimes in Germany. The former member of Hitler’s SS is charged with 58 counts of killing Jewish slave laborers in Deutsch Schuetzen, in Austria.

According to prosecutors he, along with other members of the fifth SS Tank Division "Viking,” devised a plan to rob and murder the Jews. The following day they made good on their plan, taking 57 Jewish slave laborers into the woods, stealing their valuables, and firing bullets into their heads from behind.

The final indictment comes from the allegation that he shot a 58th man who was too exhausted to continue on a forced march.

The massacre at Deutsch Schuetzen, as the case has come to be known, took place in March 1945, during the final weeks of the war in Europe, while the Nazi regime begin to collapse and members were driven to desperate measures to hide the atrocities of the Holocaust."

[vetvetdoug]

How many witnesses testified? Interesting. Before they send him off I hope they get a lot of info from him.

[ExTexasRedhead]

Wonder if he’s related to anyone in the US Congress or this Administration?

[Savage Beast]

S.???

Schickelgruber???

[edcoil]

90 years old.

I will be glad when that generation dies out. We can move past all this.

/sarc

[Wpin]

This is what happens when a government and it’s people leave God’s wisdom and laws and replaces them with their own humanism...

[yarddog]

I was just watching a show on the History Channel a few minutes ago. One of the veterans told of how one of his men had killed a bunch of German POWs he was taking to the rear. At first he was horrified then someone told him the guy was Jewish. That was supposed to make it alright.

I wonder if prosecutors are still looking for him and ready to try him for murder?

BTW if this German did what they say, he deserves whatever punishment he gets.

[ConservativeMind]

There are small pockets of Germans throughout Central and South America from Nazis who fled punishmen.

[Hot Tabasco]

A previous target, John Demjanjuk, is from nearby Sterling Heights.......led an honest life and worked for over 30 years for an auto company until he retired. The guy is ill, late 80's, what is the purpose of deporting him back to Germany where there is nobody there to help him? Add to that the evidence against him was purely heresay.......He had already been acquitted of false charges previously filed against him........

I think it's time for the witch hunters to just let it go............

[Scotsman will be Free]

Not all of them are “nazis who fled punishmen”.
There was a pilot that I read about in one of the Bantam war books who flew Stukas. The guy was a fanatic and a fighting fool. The germans invented new medals for this guy. He went to south America after the war, and a brief internment by the allies, because he was a true believer.

[JoeMac]

I saw the same History Channel documentary you did and while the American GIs conduct toward German and Japanese prisoners was more than honorable and observant of the Geneva Convention so a Jewish American shot some German POWs over sisxty years ago. Big deal. Are you going to lose sleep over it? I’m not. Who are you or I to judge that soldier? God will do that. Maybe the Germans made a break for it. And if they didn’t, c’est la guerre. Do you know what those German soldiers would have done if they had captured an American Jewish soldier?

[JoeMac]

“Just let it go’’? What an insult to those who perished in the Holocaust and to those who gave so much to end it. BS to that idea!

[yarddog]

At this point in time, I probably would not pursue him. At the time, if the account was accurate he should have been tried for murder and shot.

The fact that he was Jewish does not make one bit of difference.

These were ordinary German soldiers. Not the Gestapo.

[Venturer]

I will be glad when that generation dies out. We can move past all this.

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Nope: No slavery in over 200 years and Blacks still want reparations.

[Question_Assumptions]

Americans did all sorts of things during WW2 that would horrify people today. In the History Channel show X-Day: The Invasion of Japan, there is an interview with an American veteran about Okinawa (I'm pretty sure -- I have it sitting on my DVR so I can give you an exact reference, including the name of the person, if you really want it) where he says that they took Japanese prisoners and "got rid of them". When pressed to specify what he meant, he said that if they were close to the lines and couldn't make noise, they'd slit their throats, otherwise, they'd shoot them in the head. In some of the other places in the Pacific, they would boil the flesh off of Japanese heads and send the skulls home as souvenirs (one appeared in Life Magazine at the time in a photo with the girlfriend it was sent to and a caption saying that the military disapproved of such things). There is a scene in the beginning of the movie Saving Private Ryan with Germans running out of a bunker and being shot, which I would guess wasn't made up but was included because it appeared in an account of that day. I've heard a similar story about Jewish GIs killing SS prisoners in Germany during WW2, in one case from the biography a friend got of an old Jewish relative during a party for him. And then there are stories about retribution taken out on Japanese prisoners in response to the horrible death and mutilation of Americans. And that's not even going into the crimes committed at the time that were treated like crimes. From what I've seen, some horrible things were done in Korea, too. What's different is how those wars were covered and how later wars were covered. By the way, I found out about the Japanese skulls in a book of essays by Paul Fussell titled (after one of the essays) Thank God for the Atom Bomb that's worth reading (click title link). Fussell seems to lean pretty left and he humanely asks American families who find skulls to repatriate them to Japan, but he was in the Pacific at the time and understands that the morality of war is not always clean and tidy as the detached view of those not involved in it would like to think it is.

[Rebelbase]

More like 144 years, but point taken.

[skeeter]

144 german prisoners were executed outside Dachau by GIs who mistakenly thought they were associated with the camp.

I'm for calling it even at this point, 60 years later, and moving on.

Of course I fully understand why some who personally suffered might feel differently.

[yarddog]

I recall situations in the Pacific where American GIs came upon scenes of Japanese atrocities against American soldiers. They rightfully began to treat the Japanese more brutally than before. Even that does not excuse atrocities against unarmed POWs tho.

Any American who did some of the things you suggest was a monster and should have been prosecuted.

The German soldiers in North Africa were probably abiding by the rules of war as well as any soldiers. Killing unarmed POWs is murder pure and simple and I don’t care who did it.

One of my best friends father was a Colonel and was captured by the Germans in WWII. He told me they treated him completely humanely. When the Americans were close to over-running the German positions, they just let the prisoners go. Do you think those Germans should have been just executed?

If you do you are no better than the Gestapo.

[Hot Tabasco]

BS to that idea!

Circumstantial evidence, read the history on Demjanjuk...........over 50 years of torment is enough punnishment for someone who has not been proven guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt.

[freema]

Helluva bunch of WWII footage on the History Channel right now and all week. At Tarawa now.