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1 posted on 11/17/2009 12:18:03 PM PST by presidio9
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LOL ... this is what qualifies as new to the lamestream media.

I call made up.


2 posted on 11/17/2009 12:20:39 PM PST by Tarpon (To destroy the people's liberties, you poison their morals ...)
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BS...hospitals are required by law to treat every ER patient regardless of ability to pay. If it were otherwise hospitals would all be profitable and there would be no waiting in a room full of uninsured people with runny noses and a cough looking for primary care.


3 posted on 11/17/2009 12:21:31 PM PST by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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Believe CBS? Weren’t they the folks who hired Dan Rather?

Hell, I wouldn’t trust CBS with a three minute egg.


4 posted on 11/17/2009 12:22:59 PM PST by RexBeach
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Statistically speaking, this would be because people who are uninsured tend to have other characteristics that make them more prone to premature death — drug and alcohol addiction, little education, general irresponsibility, etc. Obviously that doesn’t describe everybody who’s uninsured, but you can be pretty sure that the vast majority of gangbangers, drug addicts, prostitutes, general deadbeats, etc, who show up in hospital emergency rooms are uninsured, and they tend to arrive with a long history of poor personal health care and some underlying conditions which aggravate the condition they’re seeking treatment for.


6 posted on 11/17/2009 12:23:33 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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Many people choose not to become insured, and they may make poor health choices otherwise and don’t visit an ER until they have accumulated problems. On most ER visits I’ve had, insurance uis not discussed until the triage is done.


7 posted on 11/17/2009 12:23:41 PM PST by Mjaye
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More DNCBS lies. These stats are cooked.

Pray for America’s Freedom


9 posted on 11/17/2009 12:24:09 PM PST by bray (America Gu Bra)
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I'd wager that the uninsured are also twice-as-likely to stagger into the ER with a Glock .40 in their chest.

And twice-as-likely to be carried in with an OD.

10 posted on 11/17/2009 12:24:35 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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Some private hospitals are more likely to transfer an uninsured patient than an insured patient, said Lavonas, who wasn’t involved in the new research.
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Michelle Obama may know a little about THAT one.


11 posted on 11/17/2009 12:25:07 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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Now it makes perfect sense...no need for a disclaimer there doc.

http://www.techbanyan.com/5118/dr-atul-gawande-sen-ted-kennedy-seat/


12 posted on 11/17/2009 12:25:54 PM PST by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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They need to do a breakdown by percentage insured at the hospital, i.e hospitals with 0-25% patients having no insurance, 25-50% and so on. Maybe it’s the hospital or the setting - urban vs. suburban. Maybe it’s pre-existing conditions - if you are a diabetic or immuno-suppressed, you are less likely to survive your trauma.


14 posted on 11/17/2009 12:26:18 PM PST by heartwood
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Lies, damn lies, and statistics. I think this falls in the last of the three categories.


16 posted on 11/17/2009 12:27:01 PM PST by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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I call BS.

BUT, if it were true, then it would mean that doctors are killing people in ER and they should be locked up.

When will a national Task Force be created to investigate and arrest these killer doctors, nurses and administrators, and shut down those hospitals.

Again, I call BS.


17 posted on 11/17/2009 12:27:07 PM PST by Gator113 (Obamba, Reid, Pelosi, the socialist triad.)
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18 posted on 11/17/2009 12:27:24 PM PST by b4its2late (Before you can control a horse, you have to break it. Sound familiar?)
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Then they should just not go there.


20 posted on 11/17/2009 12:27:31 PM PST by bmwcyle (When do they collect and jail the homeless when they don't buy their health care?)
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These are the same folks who are not going to pay for insurance under any circumstances.


22 posted on 11/17/2009 12:29:33 PM PST by ltc8k6
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The researchers took into account the severity of the injuries

So they lumped together car crashes, falls and gunshot wounds and then pretended to adjust the data to "take into account the severity of the injuries"?

This is probably how they fudged the data, by purporting to equate a category like "gunshot wounds" with "automobile crashes" as equally severe.

So the problem of the gang-banging underclass becomes a problem of "lack of health insurance" and "not enough money spent on hospitals treating them."

And if we just pass nationalized health care, then "severe" inner-city gunshot victims will have the same survival rate as "severe" suburban auto crash victims! It's magic!

24 posted on 11/17/2009 12:29:47 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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Yeah; from gunshot wounds, AIDS, STD’s, and a host of other SELF-INDULGENT/DEPENDENCY LIFESTYLE CHOICES that these parasites make.


25 posted on 11/17/2009 12:30:43 PM PST by traditional1 ("don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage. Don't gots to buy no gas...Obama, he gonna take care o' me")
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AND UNDER OBAPELOSI CARE IT WILL BE A COMPLETE 100%
26 posted on 11/17/2009 12:31:11 PM PST by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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I’m not wearing my glasses today, and first glance the title read:

Uninsured Twice as Likely to Die on FR.


30 posted on 11/17/2009 12:32:05 PM PST by Rebelbase (End Jihad: Weaponize Pork.)
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Trying to simplify cause and effect does not work. So many factors.


32 posted on 11/17/2009 12:32:49 PM PST by KSCITYBOY
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