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Lunar impact tosses up water and stranger stuff
Nature News ^ | 13 November 2009 | Eric Hand

Posted on 11/14/2009 9:15:07 PM PST by neverdem

NASA claims definitive detection of Moon water in the Solar System's 'attic'.

On the way to a wet landing.N. GRUMMAN, W. FURLONG/NASA

The debate is finally over. Lunar scientists have detected water for certain near the north pole of the Moon, after the impact of a NASA projectile kicked up water vapour along with a plume of dust. But it's not just about the water, say the scientists, who found hints in the plume of other, more exotic molecules, ranging from organic hydrocarbons to mercury. Increasingly, the scientists are viewing the polar craters as the 'attics' of the Solar System, repositories for billions of years of history.

"It is the most definitive detection yet, and will certainly settle the question of this spot in Cabeus [crater] holding water," says Anthony Colaprete, of the Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, California, and principal investigator for Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite (LCROSS), an empty rocket stage that plunged into the Moon on 9 October. Colaprete announced the water discovery at a NASA press conference on Friday.

Although the water finding is important, he is most interested in learning more about the strange stuff that still might be buried in darkness. Because the Moon has nearly no tilt to the Sun, some of its craters, including parts of Cabeus, remain in permanent shadows that get as cold as Pluto. The cold and lack of light turn them into vaults for all that falls within their rims. "These cold traps — they've swept through the inner solar system over the past couple billion years and have accumulated everything that has migrated to them."

The material remains locked in the traps, except when impacts such as LCROSS stir up the pot. Although the impact blast wasn't as spectacular as had been anticipated (see 'Moon Smash Gives off Flash'), Colaprete says his team gleaned rich data from LCROSS's trailing satellite, on a suicide trajectory four minutes behind. The impact carved out a crater more than 20 metres wide and sent dust tens of kilometres above the surface, beyond the crater walls and into sunlight.

Using spectroscopy in both the infrared and ultraviolet, Colaprete's team looked for telltale spectral lines caused by water. In the infrared, they found some lines at frequencies where light was absorbed by water molecules. In the UV, they found emission lines, where energy absorbed by water molecules was re-radiated as faint light. Colaprete says the signature is unique, and strong — he is confident that water accounts for more than 1% of the weight of the debris cloud from the impact.

The final frontier

And that's enough to pique the interest of those who seek to colonize the Moon. LCROSS, along with its sister mission the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO), was launched on 18 June — and paid for by the division of NASA that manages human space exploration, not science.

The spectra also showed evidence of hydrocarbons, which could have reached the moon along with the water during impacts from organic-rich comets. Another process, a continuous stream of protons from the solar wind, could also implant small amounts of water in the soil (see 'Water on the Moon?').

One of the most unexpected compounds — mercury — was detected by an instrument on LRO, which normally looks for the faint ultraviolet glow of the universe reflecting off of material in the permanently shadowed craters. In this case, it peered into the post-impact haze of LCROSS. Randy Gladstone, acting principal investigator for that instrument, called LAMP (for Lyman-Alpha Mapping Project), says there is a spectral signature that can only be fit well by mercury. With that element present at a sizeable fraction of a percent, Gladstone says he's not sure if he would really want to drink the Moon's water. But he hopes that the find will at least encourage future missions to the poles to figure out when and how it got there. "The soil there is this tape recorder for everything that's happened in last billion years or so on the Moon." 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cabeus; lcross; nasa; space; spectroscopy

1 posted on 11/14/2009 9:15:07 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Dang, no cheese.


2 posted on 11/14/2009 9:23:09 PM PST by StandUpChuck
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To: neverdem
Increasingly, the scientists are viewing the polar craters as the 'attics' of the Solar System

Please, just don't dig up any crazy uncles...

3 posted on 11/14/2009 9:43:28 PM PST by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: neverdem
Lunar impact tosses up water and stranger stuff.

I've done that myself a few times when I was younger.

4 posted on 11/14/2009 9:47:10 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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To: StandUpChuck

No Wensleydale?


5 posted on 11/14/2009 9:50:47 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

Thats my name.


6 posted on 11/14/2009 10:38:38 PM PST by MrNeutron1962
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To: neverdem
The debate is finally over. Lunar scientists have detected water for certain near the north pole of the Moon, after the impact of a NASA projectile kicked up water vapour along with a plume of dust.

The north pole of the Moon, huh? I'd read that the impact was at the south pole.

This sounds more like a NASA funding expedition than a stage in lunar exploration and exploitation, if they and the press can't keep basic facts about the mission straight.

7 posted on 11/15/2009 12:34:27 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS

An article on sciencenow.sciencemag.org states that the water is “cold-trapped” in craters that are in permanent shadow. But that the amount to be found up to 3 meters in depth at the impact site may only be in the range of .1 to 10% by volume.

Can anyone say how difficult it would be wring water from the lunar soil under those volumes in an airless environment? More or less difficult than extracting oil from saturated shale, for example? It sounds to me like it will take a tremendous investment of capital, resources, and labor to get the necessary equipment, crews, and stations in place to make extracting water form the lunar poles for use as rocket fuel possible.


8 posted on 11/15/2009 12:47:54 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: neverdem
" the scientists...found hints in the plume of other, more exotic molecules, ranging from organic hydrocarbons to mercury"

Hydrocarbons? Must have been from lunar dinosaurs. I wonder if they are still there?

9 posted on 11/15/2009 5:17:13 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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To: neverdem
I'm glad we know what oozes out of the moon now.


10 posted on 11/15/2009 5:31:06 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: BradyLS

It seems to me it would be no small task.

We’re not talking here about a place that’s cold. We are talking EXTREME cold where the physical properties of matter itself change. No spacesuit would work. I doubt any machine would have more than a few minutes of operational capability before it simply shattered like a car window...

It’d be tough! Might be the only way would be to lob bombs or something into the crater and collect what comes out!


11 posted on 11/15/2009 5:33:40 AM PST by djf (Maybe life ain't about the doing - maybe it's just the trying... Hey, I don't make the rules!)
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To: BradyLS

No lack of energy to distill the water, the sky is full of it. For mining the soil, sterling engines would work well. Compact nuclear plants would also come in handy for heat and for distillation.

No small cost getting the equipment to the moon though.


12 posted on 11/15/2009 5:42:40 AM PST by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: SuziQ
No Wensleydale?

Max Boyce said it was Caerphilly.

13 posted on 11/15/2009 6:37:49 AM PST by thulldud (It HAS happened here!)
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To: MrNeutron1962; thulldud

14 posted on 11/15/2009 10:12:21 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: paulycy; All

It’s the WATER..!!!


15 posted on 11/15/2009 11:11:44 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: SuziQ; All

Planet Earth’s Moon WATER/Planet Mars WATER = A Gift from the heavens and Heaven


16 posted on 11/15/2009 11:25:22 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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17 posted on 11/15/2009 6:47:58 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: listenhillary

We can do most of the initial setup for a moon colony with teleoperated robots....

1-2 second response time is good enough for basic control from the ground.


18 posted on 11/16/2009 8:24:56 AM PST by GraceG
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