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How many at Fort Hood died because of the Army's gun ban?
American Thinker ^ | November 14, 2009 | Kyle-Anne Shiver

Posted on 11/14/2009 12:36:48 PM PST by libstripper

If I were the parent or spouse of one of those killed in the terrorist attack at Fort Hood last week, I would begin raising utter hell in the public arena the minute my loved one was buried and my tears dried up. Not only did outrageous political correctness convince otherwise rational people in authority to put our soldiers in unnecessary danger, but since 1993, there has been a gun-ban in place on our army bases.

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Gun free zone = terrorist free fire zone.
1 posted on 11/14/2009 12:36:49 PM PST by libstripper
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What is the military record of Kyle-Anne Shiver ????
2 posted on 11/14/2009 12:41:34 PM PST by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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Why, perchance, does that have anything to do with the price of eggs?


3 posted on 11/14/2009 12:44:34 PM PST by libstripper
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Bill O’Reilly claims that this terrorist attack too place because Nidal “had access to guns”. IOW, O’Reilly is an idiot.


4 posted on 11/14/2009 12:47:31 PM PST by ozzymandus
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I’m at work but someone sent me a email last night saying that the little young woman did not bring him down but another cop did? I don’t have the names in front of me...


5 posted on 11/14/2009 12:50:18 PM PST by tubebender (jr on the pole)
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To: org.whodat
I have elsewhere posted my view that one has to think carefully before deciding who on a military base should really be allowed to carry a sidearm, and I can well sympathize with any CO wanting to keep weapons under very strict control. Soldiers and sailors are just ordinary men and women, young men and women by the majority often with no better judgment on these kinds of matters than their civilian counterparts.

At the same time, if Clinton really did turn our bases into totally gun free zones, then this is likewise stupid. A reasonable level of security and a reasonable level of responsiveness, under the control of the CO is more than appropriate.

Those who want to turn our bases into armed free-for-alls, like this article seems to advocate, know nothing about the military. The use of deadly force is a serious issue, and you cannot advocate the notion that off duty soldiers and sailors are that off-duty that the military will not bear criminal and civil culpability for any mistakes.

6 posted on 11/14/2009 12:55:06 PM PST by AndyJackson
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Texas CCP owners have NO RIGHTS at Fort Hood.


7 posted on 11/14/2009 12:57:08 PM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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outrageous political correctness

Isn't that what killed 'em?

8 posted on 11/14/2009 12:57:15 PM PST by stevem
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To: ozzymandus

Bill O’Reilly claims that this terrorist attack too place because Nidal “had access to guns”. IOW, O’Reilly is an idiot.
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It is difficult to tell what country O’Reilly belongs in. He is weak on Obama and his thugs — never takes a strong stand against what is tearing America apart now and rationalizes every thing that, in any way, could be considered controversial. Case in point, what he said above....I don’t watch his show any more and wonder why it gets such high ratings.


9 posted on 11/14/2009 12:57:22 PM PST by EagleUSA
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Probably not as many. One thing you need to realize is that personnel in uniform are not allowed to carry personal firearms. They should be allowed to have them in their personal vehicles in my opinion. I’d carry my .45 on base if I was allowed, but I have to leave it at home or face arrest when I go to work.


10 posted on 11/14/2009 12:57:35 PM PST by ChuckHam
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Bill O’Reilly claims that this terrorist attack too place because Nidal “had access to guns”. IOW, O’Reilly is an idiot.

I give up.Who's Bill O'Reilly?

11 posted on 11/14/2009 12:58:47 PM PST by stevem
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IOW, O’Reilly is an idiot.

Absolutely. All BOR would have to do is spend 10 minutes reading Hasan's carefully assembled 50 slide presentation on Islam and jihad that he gave at Walter Reed in 2007. It shows a careful, thoughtful development of Islamic thought where Hasan was gradually moving in the direction of becoming a full fledged Jihadi. Included in it is a remarkably concise precis of the Koran showing how Islam evolved into a bloodthirsty political/military cult. Thereafter he simply struggled with his religion until he concluded it compelled him to the murderous, terroristic act of treason he perpetrated. In many ways, it was every bit as sane as someone choosing to enter the clergy after a great moral struggle, the difference being that this was to do absolute evil in the service of a fake god and prophet, instead of to do good.

12 posted on 11/14/2009 12:58:55 PM PST by libstripper
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Nidal Hasan was on Obama’s Transition Homeland Security Team:

Look on page 29 of the Homeland Security Institute link below.

Homeland Security Policy Institute link

Holy Krap!

Let Hannity know!!!

13 posted on 11/14/2009 1:09:33 PM PST by moovova (More coffee please...make it a double.)
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I believe any military person who has passed their gun quals or has worked in security should be allowed to carry on any base they are stationed.


14 posted on 11/14/2009 1:29:14 PM PST by My hearts in London - Everett (So the writer who breeds more words than he needs, is making a chore for the reader who reads.)
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You just cant have people on military bases, other than CID, MP’s, base security, or people on the range involved in training or qualifying running around with loaded weapons. It's a recipe for disaster. Heck if you want everyone running around with guns why not hand grenades. Now the last thing I am is a gun control freak but you have to understand the dynamics of a military instillation.
15 posted on 11/14/2009 1:45:46 PM PST by skimask
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Who would have thought that the safest place for an enemy soldier to be would be inside an American Army base.


16 posted on 11/14/2009 1:49:04 PM PST by jmcenanly
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“Soldiers and sailors are just ordinary men and women, young men and women by the majority often with no better judgment on these kinds of matters than their civilian counterparts.”

OK, they are ordinary people, so lets just enforce their second amendment rights.


17 posted on 11/14/2009 2:06:20 PM PST by devere
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“Now the last thing I am is a gun control freak but you have to understand the dynamics of a military instillation.”

You sound like every other gun-control freak I’ve run into. There’s always some “special” reason why people in their locale simply can’t be trusted with firearms.


18 posted on 11/14/2009 2:10:34 PM PST by devere
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14. (Yes, I’m counting the unborn child onme ofthe victim was carrying. If Scott Peterson can be convicted of murdering unborn Conor Peterson, tehn Maj. Hasan should be charged with 14 counts of murder, not 13 — as well as terrorism adn treason — and sedition.)


19 posted on 11/14/2009 2:59:55 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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The gun grabbers needs a certain level of violence in this country. They are willing to accept a certain level of killing to further their political agenda.


20 posted on 11/14/2009 3:01:59 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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