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(D-RI) Sen. Reed: Forcing People to Buy Health Insurance is Constitutionally Justified ...
CNS News ^ | 11/10/2009 | Edwin Mora

Posted on 11/12/2009 4:59:09 AM PST by markomalley

When asked where specifically the Constitution authorized Congress to mandate that individuals buy health insurance, Sen. Jack Reed (D.-R.I.) said that he “would have to check the specific sections” but said that it was like making people “sign up for the draft.”

“Specifically where in the Constitution does Congress get its authority to mandate that individuals purchase health insurance?” CNSNews.com asked Reed.

“Let me see,” said Reed. “I would have to check the specific sections, so I’ll have to get back to you on the specific section. But it is not unusual that the Congress has required individuals to do things, like sign up for the draft and do many other things too, which I don’t think are explicitly contained [in the Constitution]. It gives Congress a right to raise an army, but it doesn’t say you can take people and draft them. But since that was something necessary for the functioning of the government over the past several years, the practice on the books, it’s been recognized, the authority to do that.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: Rhode Island
KEYWORDS: 111th; constitution; democrats; donetreadonme; liberalfascism; obamacare; rapeofliberty; standdown; unconstituional; unconstitutional
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To: magellan
JD from Harvard

He has a JD from Harvard and nneds to consult the Constitution ? Do they still teach constitutional law at Harvard ? Not that it's used much in DC.

I think this will be the most effective way to challenge the Health care bill. A class action suit of all 56% of those who don't want the Feds to run healthcare.

21 posted on 11/12/2009 5:52:54 AM PST by Timocrat
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To: markomalley

Authority to do to you not for you.


22 posted on 11/12/2009 5:59:18 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Frenchtown Dan
“Since we’ve screwed you before, now it’s an accepted practice, and we can screw you whenever we want. And screw your constitution too”.

Funny how the original 10 pages of the Constitution became "Constitutional Law," which seems to mean whatever law professors like BO think it means, and keeps getting bigger.


23 posted on 11/12/2009 6:07:02 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Joe Wilson said "You lie!" in a room full of 500 politicians. Who was he talking about?)
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To: PA-RIVER

“We need a 20 million man march to DC.”

I totally agree. And some could even come unarmed.


24 posted on 11/12/2009 6:17:35 AM PST by ScottinVA (The arrogance of this Congress is staggering. November 2010 can't get here quickly enough.)
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To: markomalley

Fixed it for ya — What a group of geniuses we have elected to the Senate.

Remember gang they’re a problem of our own making.


25 posted on 11/12/2009 6:21:18 AM PST by 556x45
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To: markomalley
Reed is a jackass. Congress is given the specific power to raise and maintain an army and navy. Its not given a specific power to force people to buy things. If Congress isn't authorized to do something, it doesn't exist.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

26 posted on 11/12/2009 6:26:51 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: markomalley

He just goes to show that RI could have skipped being the 13th state to ratify the Constitution, and no one would have known. People in RI don’t seem to have much political understanding.


27 posted on 11/12/2009 6:29:13 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: ScottinVA

That would be less than a third the size of Obama’s popular “people’s army” of true believers.


28 posted on 11/12/2009 6:30:12 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: markomalley; All

From national security to healthcare....yeah, that’s great logic there senator weed...ahh reed.


29 posted on 11/12/2009 6:33:23 AM PST by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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To: markomalley; All

Great thread. Thanks to all posters. Tyranny is on the march.


30 posted on 11/12/2009 6:37:20 AM PST by PGalt
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To: mombi

Using Reed’s logic Govt. could tell you:

What to eat?
What to wear?
What to drive?
Where to go?
What to study?
Where to live?
Etc., etc., etc.,

ANYTHING that government decides is in the “best interests” of the U.S. could be imposed on us.


31 posted on 11/12/2009 6:49:40 AM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: xkaydet65
Next they will use the commerce clause to force every family to buy a GM car.

The following is excerpted from a Wall Street Journal article dated October 30, 2009.

FBI LETS BARRED TYCOON VISIT US

By EVAN PEREZ and GREGORY L. WHITE

One of Russia's most powerful tycoons -- barred entry to the U.S. for years due to U.S. government concerns about possible ties to organized crime -- visited the country twice this year under secret arrangements made by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska met with FBI agents in August and earlier this month as part of a continuing criminal probe, according to two administration officials. The focus of that probe couldn't be learned.

Mr. Deripaska used the opportunity of his recent U.S. visits to meet with top executives of U.S. investment banks Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs Group Inc. The aluminum giant he controls, UC Rusal, is preparing for an initial public offering, a vital part of Mr. Deripaska's efforts to save his debt-burdened business.

The U.S. trips came at an opportune moment to help reassure bankers his visa difficulties may be easing. Mr. Deripaska's visa troubles are a potentially sensitive issue for investors, bankers say.

Mr. Deripaska also stopped in Detroit to meet with top executives at General Motors Co. to discuss the sale of a stake in its Adam Opel AG unit to a Russian-backed consortium that includes Mr. Deripaska's AO GAZ auto maker, people familiar with the visit said.

The State Department, which rules on requests for U.S. visas, hasn't publicly said why it previously denied entry to Mr. Deripaska, and declined to comment on the recent visits.....read more.....

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125685578903317087.html

More on Mr. Deripaska

http://www.luxist.com/tag/Oleg+Deripaska/

Mr. Deripaska embodies Gorbachev's "Third Way".....

"Communism for the people, Capitalism for himself."

32 posted on 11/12/2009 6:54:41 AM PST by Sons of Union Vets (No taxation without representation!)
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To: markomalley

Wow, we really are at the mercy of these stiffs.

Freegards


33 posted on 11/12/2009 7:02:08 AM PST by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: Sons of Union Vets

The chain is

Deripaska:Marc Rich:Bill Clinton

Rich was pardoned for a cut in his aluminum hoard obtained from the Russian


34 posted on 11/12/2009 7:02:28 AM PST by Francois Marie Arouet
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To: PA-RIVER
We need a 20 million man march to DC.

Agreed. It's going to take an action of unprecedented magnitude on The People's part to stop the wholesale destruction of our country by the monsters in Washington.

I'm afraid that we've reached a point where we will have to present an overwhelming level of resistance to stop the traitors. That means many millions of bodies showing up in protest.

And it can't just be a one day event. We're in as much danger as any banana republic that has undergone a Marxist coup. We need to recognize it as such, and begin mobilizing for a sustained occupation of Washington DC. A one day march won't phase the vermin. We've got to clog the capitol with millions of loud and boisterous patriots until our demands are met.

In my opinion, the whole left-liberal-Democrat establishment needs to be fired by The People, in order to save the nation.

35 posted on 11/12/2009 7:04:59 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Surround all the big buildings-—Fed, FBI, Treasury, WH, Senate/Congress—just clog up the works for 3 days. Outnumber the police, nat’l guard and Secret Service agents.


36 posted on 11/12/2009 7:29:06 AM PST by Achilles Heel
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To: markomalley

Reid is a Traitor as well as an asshat.

Enumerated Powers of Congress: (And the draft IS listed, Health care insurance is NOT)

* To lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
* To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
* To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;
* To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;
* To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;
* To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;
* To establish post offices and post roads;
* To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;
* To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;
* To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;
* To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
* To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;
* To provide and maintain a navy;
* To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;
* To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
* To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
* To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles (16 km) square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings.


37 posted on 11/12/2009 7:32:07 AM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: markomalley

They are out of control with phony power.


38 posted on 11/12/2009 7:52:35 AM PST by bmwcyle (When do they collect and jail the homeless when they don't buy their health care?)
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To: markomalley

CNS has been doing a good job asking various members of Congress about the constitutionality of this health care reform bill. The fact is, it isn’t. Forcing people to buy health care of any kind is not in the enumerated powers of the federal government. These elected officials are absolutlely clueless or simply do not care about following our Constitution.


39 posted on 11/12/2009 7:58:27 AM PST by Girlene
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To: markomalley
To paraphrase: "You serfs are actually asking questions now?"
40 posted on 11/12/2009 8:00:20 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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