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Health Care Bills Passes the US House (220-215)
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Posted on 11/07/2009 8:07:41 PM PST by jern

Just had the 218th vote, which is what they need to psas th ebill


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To: NoRedTape

....Good always wins out..
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In a fantasy world. Tell the people of Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, etc. that good always wins. I think they will beg to differ.


541 posted on 11/07/2009 9:30:48 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: homemom

Yea , calls and faxes didn’t do sh*t for us and won’t. Time for serious civil disorder and headline making actions. This country is virtually being dismantled right before our eyes and time is quickly running out.
Cap and Trade and Immigration will be right behind this one . Then Obama and Pelosi will passe the Fairness Doctrine and at that point we loos communication with each other and it all lost from there out.


542 posted on 11/07/2009 9:31:01 PM PST by sonic109
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To: PhiKapMom

I wonder what would happen if millions of Americans renounced their citizenship, stopped paying taxes, and just disappeared from the government payroll?


543 posted on 11/07/2009 9:31:16 PM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: joesjane; meyer

Exactly. This is the type of thinking we need.

I’m going to a Tea Party meeting on Monday evening that’s very well run. I’m going to bring this up and see if they can spread these ideas around to other Tea Party organizers. Gotta start somewhere.


544 posted on 11/07/2009 9:31:20 PM PST by bergmeid
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To: mojitojoe

1776


545 posted on 11/07/2009 9:31:35 PM PST by sonic109
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To: CincyRichieRich

Some are spending more time trashing one lone Republican from a liberal district then the Dems from more conservative districts. Go Figure!


546 posted on 11/07/2009 9:31:57 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: joesjane

Sure, please do. Someone sent it to me in an email.


547 posted on 11/07/2009 9:32:09 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: JustPiper
But I know for a fact They Live

You need to watch the movie again. It was an "message" movie not only against the rich and authorities but against conservatives and American Capitalism(even made an not so veiled anti Reagan slur) made by John Carpenter and he is a raving liberal lunatic.
548 posted on 11/07/2009 9:33:04 PM PST by RedMonqey ( John Galt , Please pick up the white courtesy phone.....)
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To: bergmeid

Why is that ? Do you see the GOP doing something I don’t see?
I wouldn’t give you 2 cents for the GOP leadership these days . They don’t represent me either.


549 posted on 11/07/2009 9:33:24 PM PST by sonic109
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To: GeronL
I think the new taxes start immediately

That's the part of their strategy that I don't understand. Taxes now, benefits (votes!) later. If they lose the House in 2010 and the White House in 2012, there's no barrier to unraveling the whole thing. Even an uncooperative House in 2011 could cause a heap of trouble, I would think.

550 posted on 11/07/2009 9:33:46 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: sonic109

Amen on the civil unrest.


551 posted on 11/07/2009 9:34:07 PM PST by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion)
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To: PhiKapMom

I’m more interested in which state will be the first to exercise its sovereign rights?


552 posted on 11/07/2009 9:34:13 PM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: rintense

BINGO!!!! It would bring them to their knees. It’s going to take something drastic.


553 posted on 11/07/2009 9:34:13 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: kaila
Physicians are not slaves- if you try to dictate the terms of employment- this would be a Supreme Court case.

That's true, but they will not allow physicians to exercise such free choice on what patients to see that it would prevent their grand socialized medicine scheme from working. When it really becomes socialized medicine, the physicians are basically salaried and work for the government.

And, it depends upon who's on the court when such cases might arrive there, how many Obama appointees, and who they replaced.

It's a matter of degree, but these little Stalins will come up with schemes to require physicians to be part of the new system, if it's ever enacted.

554 posted on 11/07/2009 9:34:33 PM PST by Will88
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To: PhiKapMom
Cao comes from a very liberal district. He voted the way his constituents wanted as did Democrats from GOP leaning districts. I think the vote was a fair reflection of the fact liberals can get their way in the House when they hang together. But they can lose only so many moderates. No doubt deals where made under the table with some of the Blue Dogs to get it passed.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

555 posted on 11/07/2009 9:35:02 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

There were 14 Dems who voted against cutting off debate which shocked me and every last Republican stuck together which was another shocker.


556 posted on 11/07/2009 9:35:20 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: mojitojoe

this guy hits it right on the head.
That is why I have posted 30 times now
CIVIL UNREST IS IN ORDER
Shove the faxes and emails , that stuff gets trashed on the spot ,it’s neither read of though about. SCARE them , that;s what they need to see. Americans in their faces and up their a$$es 24/7


557 posted on 11/07/2009 9:35:45 PM PST by sonic109
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To: bergmeid
"Next year is going to be a Democrap bloodbath. It’s going to be GLORIOUS to witness that!!!"

Well, I hope your right and there are thing going on that will probably derail this, I hope anyway. The problem is that many companies will have to take defensive positions and even if this is rolled back putting the egg back together again will be impossible. This has to stop in the senate, hopefully nothing will pass this year. maybe the Democrats believe they can run on this next year? I believe they are delusional but true believers are dangerous and that is what we have here.

558 posted on 11/07/2009 9:36:03 PM PST by WHBates
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To: PhiKapMom
They are a whole group of moderates who will not support the public option.

Two hours ago they wouldn't. Ask them tomorrow, and I think you'll get a different answer. i.e., past statements may not be indicative of future performance. I hope you're right, but I think when the chips are down and votes need to be cast, there will be a whole different dynamic. With enough pressure from the White House and the Dem leadership, I'm sure they'll find a way to have a "sudden" change of heart.

559 posted on 11/07/2009 9:36:33 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: mojitojoe
They said the same thing, years ago, in Cuba and Venezuela. Each day they gave up a little more until they woke up one day and it was too late

You're right. Bye bye Miss American Pie. Didn't the leftists play that during the Usurper's 'inauguration'? These SCUMBAGS are out in the open with their intentions. We're living through a Communist Coup in America.


560 posted on 11/07/2009 9:36:55 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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