The guy is an idiot.
Posted on 11/03/2009 10:39:28 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Awesome night!
The left will try their best to minimize the damage done but the bluedog Democrats are now on notice….pass fiscally irresponsible bills like ObamaCare and your toast. As for NY-23, a few good articles…first from Roger Simon:
Now I realize that the surprise loser there, Doug Hoffman, ran as a Conservative, not a Republican. But I submit in this case that was a distinction without a significant difference because virtually all the Republican establishment had lined up behind Hoffman by the day of the election.
So why – in what was clearly a Republican year – did Hoffman lose? Well, there are several reasons and, yes, the Democratic victory was narrow, thinner than the five or so percent that went to withdrawn Republican nominee Scozzafava who herself endorsed the Democratic candidate. Still, the 23rd is a safely Republican, even conservative, district. In a year where the GOP racked up a 20% margin in Virginia and coasted easily in Jersey, a state in which Obama romped in ‘08 by 16%, what was the problem?
Well… I might as well say it… social conservatism. America is a fiscally conservative country – now perhaps more than ever, and with much justification – but not a socially conservative one. No, I don’t mean to say it’s socially liberal. It’s not. It’s socially laissez-faire (just as its mostly fiscally laissez-faire). Whether we’re pro-choice, pro-life or whatever we are, most of us want the government out of our bedrooms, just as we want it out of our wallets.
Hoffman’s capital-C Conservative campaign, however, tried to separate itself from the majority parties by making a big deal of the social issues. He was all upset that Scozzafava was pro-gay marriage, seemingly as upset as he was with her support for the stimulus plan.
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I am not convinced that the NY loss means that much....
“Well… I might as well say it… social conservatism. America is a fiscally conservative country – now perhaps more than ever, and with much justification – but not a socially conservative one. No, I don’t mean to say it’s socially liberal. It’s not. It’s socially laissez-faire (just as its mostly fiscally laissez-faire). Whether we’re pro-choice, pro-life or whatever we are, most of us want the government out of our bedrooms, just as we want it out of our wallets.
Hoffman’s capital-C Conservative campaign, however, tried to separate itself from the majority parties by making a big deal of the social issues. He was all upset that Scozzafava was pro-gay marriage, seemingly as upset as he was with her support for the stimulus plan.”
This is horsecrap. We just won a battle in Maine to end same-sex “marriage”. Do I have to remind you that Prop 8 passed in loony California? More Americans call themselves pro-life now. Social conservatism didn’t lose this battle.
In NY....the RINO’s LOST.....
The guy is an idiot.
The NY23 loss was not exactly great news. I am not going to pretend I am happy about it. But I am still pleased we stopped Scozzafava, who would have been a nightmare for Republicans and conservatives in the US congress.
Why did Hoffman lose when the last 2 polls had him ahead?
I think its because the the last 2 polls were conducted before the effects of Scozzafa endorsing Owens were fully felt. I wasn't convinced her endorsement of Owens was going to count for much, but apparently she had quite a few core supporters from her own hometown locales, who listened to her and switched their votes to the Democrat Owen.
More reason for the RNC to be ashamed of themselves for wasting one million dollars on this woman.
Social conservatism is not a loser.
Owens got less than half the vote. He is a good bet to go down to defeat next year when the Republican and Conservative Parties unite behind a single candidate.
It's a typical Northeastern RINO attitude.
See #8....
They are simply trying to tag Socially Conservatives as Extremists....the numbers look better for them there.
I missed that, I thought that was the article.
The biggest defeat for RINOs in New York wasn’t the pre-election collapse of Dede Scozzafava in the 23rd CD. It was tonight’s stunning victory by conservative Republican Rob Astorino in the race for County Executive of Westchester County—the affluent and heavily taxed suburb just north of NYC, which has been solidly Democratic for more than a decade.
I think NY23 folks resented outside bigshots trying to force their wills onto them, after they had their own local process—however imperfect.
It is a moderate GOP district, where the previous GOP guy held moderate ACU ratings: lifetime 8 terms 71.55, but 60 and 40 in last two terms.
Hoffman would likely be a 90+ rating person, quite a bit to the right of McHugh (previous GOP representative).
Excellent news.
The Democrats will have a very hard time calling Fiscal Conservatives....Extremists....
They are simply trying to tag Socially Conservatives as Extremists....the numbers look better for them there.
Their propaganda against social conservatives is very, very effective as well. They have managed to characterize affable, productive, mind-their-own-business Catholics, evangelicals and others as Grand Inquisitors, snake handlers, book burners and witch hunters.
This smear is one of the most effective weapons in the leftist arsenal.
If the Conservatives had not backed Hoffman - it would never have been that close of a race. We didn't lose anything. Both the Republican & the Democrat would be voting with the RATS anyway - so what did we lose?
I agree - it is our seat to win in 2010.
NY 23 lost because the RINOs encouraged Scuzzy to drop out, otherwise, she and Owens would have split the Marxist vote. It was a win for conservatism, too, because Palin demonstrated she has more influence than neo-con Newt.
By the way, where is all of the outrage from party leaders for Scuzzy’s endorsement of the Democrat? Oh, yeah, they aren’t outraged - it was their idea. They also wrote the talking points repeated by Steele and Barbour, that the overwhelming upsets in VA and NJ aren’t a referendum on the Marxist usurper.
Sarah, could you do us a favor and throw Steele and Barbour under the bus?
Hoffman lost because the GOP leadership didn’t have their sh!t together until it was much too late. They backed a leftist dressed up as a Republican.
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