Posted on 11/03/2009 9:25:23 AM PST by Mozilla
This bombshell from Glenn Beck is about three minutes into the segment on Thursday. Beck said leaving the governor’s mansion in Alaska was a smart move.
Beck: “Smart move. And I think she’s also positioning herself for a third party. By the time this election runs around for the president, I’m sorry, but unless the Republicans and the Democrats wake up, a third party will win.”
We shall see how that works out. Many people are angry at Republicans right now. The message sent to Dede Scozzafava is being noticed in Washington. Believe me. But 3 years is a long time in politics. We shall see.
It is time to begin thinking more about the person being considered for public office than for the party.
Also of note:
Why are leftist women jealous of Palin
I don’t want anything that would split the party and cause bickering that would lead to Zeros win as votes go to two different candidates. But I am sure the Rinos will try their best to hold on to power and the media to given them a platform.
The Rinos split the party and caused the bickering that lead to Zeros win anyways. So I am not sureI want another Rino nominee. SO I am hoping Palin can win the nomination.
It’s the damn media plus some of those Rinos wanting to probably run for president themselves or hold on to power who have been propping up the notions that Palin couldn’t win the nomination.
Not totally sure where Beck is heading with his comments. But it sounds like it is his speculation that Palin may get fed up with the two party system and run as a independent.
Too early to see if that is where we are headed.
It's not calling someone a RINO, they are accusing Rush of the bestiality thing because he said Scuzzo-whats'-her-name has screwed RINOs all over the country, her exposing their sham.
Put John McLoser on the “widdle r” ballot, or an equal RINO like joooollyanny, or the massatwoshits ex gub, I won’t have to think even a nanosecond .... Palin would be my only choice.
Moderates and oh so intelligent and thoughtful idependants are total losers. Either your conservative or NOT.
Gray areas DO NOT exist in my world.
Here is historian Michael Medved’s description of that history. By the way, the Whigs were only a party for 22 years.
“2. NO, THE REPUBLICANS NEVER CONSTITUED A THIRD PARTY
Whenever I take the time on the radio to discuss the obvious and inevitable futility of minor party campaigns, some smug caller will try to play “gotcha” by reminding me that my own beloved GOP began its political life as a minor party, and managed to elect an underdog nominee named Lincoln in the fateful election pf 1860. It makes for a good story, and I know it allows misled minions to feel better to believe that it’s true, but the Republicans never operated as a third party. By the time of the first Republican County Convention (in Ripon, Wisconsin, on March 20, 1854) the Whig Party had already collapsed and shattered, hopelessly divided between its Northern anti-slavery branch and the Southern “Cotton Whigs.” Refugees (including numerous Congresmen, Senators and others) from the Whig debacle determined to fill the vacuum and, joined by a few anti-slavery Democrats and former Free Soilers, they launched their new national organization.
The first time candidates ever appeared on ballots with the designation of the new Republican Party came with the Congressional elections of 1854 and the fresh organization won stunning success from the very beginning. That very first year the Republicans won the largest share of the House of Representatives (108 seats, compared to 83 for the Democrats, along with fifteen Senate seats (including the majority of those contested in that election). In other words, the Republicans began their existence not as a third party, or even a second party, but as the instantly dominant party on the ballot. The future “Grand Old Party” showed itself a Grand Young Party not only with its Congressional candidates, but with its first-ever Presidential nominee – John C. Fremont – in 1856. Rather than making the traditional, pointless and masturbatory third party gesture and winning 2% or 10%, Fremont made a real race of it against the Democrat James Buchanan: losing the popular vote 45% to 33%, and the electoral vote, 174 to 118. The real third party candidate was former President Fillmore, whose anti-immigrant Know Nothing campaign drew a few remnants of the Whigs and took just enough votes away from Fremont in New Jersey and Pennsylvania to give Buchanan narrow victories and the electoral majority. By the time they nominated Lincoln four years later, Republicans commanded clear majorities in nearly all the northern states and fully expected to sweep more than enough of those states (especially in light of Democratic divisions) to put him in the White House.
. In the pre-Civil War election of 1860, the Republicans hardly represented an upstart third party effort: they won a clear majority of 59% of the electoral vote and a comfortable plurality (40%) of the popular vote. The real “third party” in this election involved the Southern Democrats who abandoned their national nominee, Stephen A. Douglas, and campaigned for Vice President (and future Confederate general) John C. Breckinridge, winning 18% of the popular vote and 72 electoral votes. Meanwhile, former Cotton Whigs and pro-union Democrats from border states launched a fourth party campaign, winning 13% of the popular vote and 39 electoral votes for their man.”
Formed in 1854 and majority party in the Senate and Congress and President in 1860, never really a third party.
Beck attacks the Republicans more and more and becomes scarier to me everyday. I just pray his "ultimate solution" is not to move confused, excited conservatives to the Libertarian Party or attempt to start a new one.
Ah yes third parties. There was the moderate John Anderson. Even he couldn't get it done for sorry Carter. And let's not forget Perot's "deformed" party. We really showed that GOP by electing Clinton... twice. And then of course Nadar came through to keep Gore out of the White House too. A third party could be just the thing in a few years... to help re-elect Obama, unless of course people are talking about a MoveOn.org third party or something - Now THAT has promise. ;-)
No, that indicates we need to quit letting the RINOS in the party choose our candidates for us. NY-23 is a shot across the bow, we need to continue to make our voices heard.
The fundamental battle is for control of the Republican Party, and to drive out the RINOs and elitists.
Beware of Beck.
There’s always the first time.
>> Not totally sure where Beck is heading with his comments <<
I’d say he’s headed back to his office, in order to learn if his ridiculous speculation made his ratings go up or down.
Related article, today in Email from Richard Viguerie:
Richard Viguerie: The GOP — A Party with Leaders, But No Followers
(Manassas, Virginia) The following is a statement by Richard A. Viguerie, Chairman of ConservativeHQ.com, concerning the impact of the special election in New York’s 23rd Congressional District on the relationship between Republican Party leadership and the GOP base:
“The special election in New York’s 23rd Congressional District has dramatically highlighted the disconnect between Republican leaders and the base of the GOP.
“Today the GOP is a party with leaders but no followers.
“It’s clear that the main opposition to President Obama and Speaker Pelosi’s agenda is not Republican politicians but conservative talk show hosts, bloggers, cable TV hosts, Tea Party activists, town hall attendees as well as national, state and local conservatives.
“Tea Party activists and conservatives feel betrayed by Republican leaders including Republican congressional leaders: John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Mitch McConnell, the Republican National Committee Chairman, Michael Steele, and Newt Gingrich.
“GOP leaders would rather follow the advice of professional political consultants who are not small-government conservatives, and who would rather satisfy their friends in the media than win - and win with principle. They are the same people who try to denigrate the Tea Party and Town Hall protesters by calling them ‘teabaggers.’ It is that thinking, which actively opposes the rise of conservatives and others who challenge the old Washington political establishment, that will keep the GOP as a small tent. The Tea Party movement, like Reaganism, is the real big tent.
“Over the last dozen years, Republican Party leaders have broken the bond of trust between them and the base of the party. It will not be restored until the GOP selects new leaders that represent the views and values of grass roots Americans, not Washington DC views and values.”
—end—
NOTE TO EDITORS: Richard A. Viguerie pioneered political direct mail and has been called “one of the creators of the modern conservative movement” (The Nation magazine) and one of the “conservatives of the century” (The Washington Times ). He is the author of Conservatives Betrayed, How George W. Bush and Other Big Government Republicans Hijacked the Conservative Cause.
Thank you for that authentic frontier gibberish.
I’m glad that the children were here to witness that.
Why a third party? Why not run on the GOP ticket? Doesn’t make sense, unless you’re hell bent on losing.
I’ve heard this rumor that she’s going to form something on the order of, America First Party.
Anything can happen, but running on a third party ticket, unless the republican is another fuzzy heavy moderate/liberal means you lose.
He's off his meds on this one.
Yep, everything tells me her political instincts are too good and her study of things Reagan has been too thorough for her to fall for a third-party trap.
She knows she’s got work to do digging out the Augean Republican Stables—but she looks to be hard at work at that right now.
But I was sure that you said you would not vote for Palin as a third party candidate, that you would not split GOP votes?
Don’t blame Perot for 92’ when it was another RINO, GHW Bush, that gave us Clinton.
I think Sarah is too smart to go third party, and if not, I think she loves this country too much to help reelect Obamao, because that is the only thing that will get accomplished should Sarah run third party. It will be Perot redux. Besides, Sarah can beat the establishment, and win the Republican nomination . She can also win the general election as a Republican. Why would she want to blow that opportunity with a third party run. Third party conservatism is good for the Republican Party, even if it is just a matter of running off the RINOs that are destroying the party. I would like to see more third party runs, like JD Hayworth against John McCain. It will put backbone back into the Republican Party before 2010.
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