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To: Sub-Driver

I’ll get reamed for this, but....

First I am also VERY disappointed with Newt on this. And not only on this, but also on his nonsense with Pelosi on Global Warming. I think what he did on NYC23 was a tactical makee, but more importantly, an error on principle.

Having said that, I am surprised at how little respect Newt gets here. Fewer than I would think seem to really appreciate the enormity of what he accomplished in the 90’s and the odds against which he brought the GOP and, if not our brand of conservatism, something that wasn’t leftism, to power.

I think Newt is a historical and important figure in the conservative movement, frankly, only somewhat less important than Reagan. And while I wouldn’t expect that to get him a pass on his apostacies, I would have thought it would entitle him to a bit more respect in opposition.

Oh well...flame away.

Hank


113 posted on 10/31/2009 11:23:32 AM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Where's the diversity on MSNBC? Olbermann, Schultz, Matthews, Maddow.....all white males!)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball
You are correct, he did wonders in the 90's. It's time he quietly retires and writes more of his fabulous historical books and doesn't become our version of Carter. He's been in DC too long hobnobbing with that crowd. He made his bed with Pelosi on globull warming, which really was the last straw for many of us.
145 posted on 10/31/2009 12:19:55 PM PDT by Indy Pendance (Live Free Or Die)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

You’re absolutely right, Hank...Newt has been on the inside of actual big-time political races, not behind a keyboard, and been pretty successful ...his writings are top-notch and he has excellent command of issues and understands the balance of blind ideology and achievable politics...no one to compare to him on the conservative side...magritte


146 posted on 10/31/2009 12:21:16 PM PDT by magritte ("I will give this monkey for lunch to Mr Sata,")
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

1992-92-94 is coming up on nearly a generation ago. I won’t flame you for your stand. I would have had more respect for Newt had he let his original endorsement stand.


149 posted on 10/31/2009 12:26:25 PM PDT by healy61
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

Doesn’t matter much WHAT Newt accomplished/attempted fifteen years ago.

All he’s done lately is cancel all of the trust and goodwill he ever earned.

JMHO, he’s just spent too much time inside the Beltway, chasing that big brass ring and worrying more about his own personal rice bowl than the countries’ freedom and welfare.

I’m not going to go flaming anybody about this. I don’t dislike the man. I just ain’t got the time for him anymore.


154 posted on 10/31/2009 12:32:48 PM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (The so-called Healthcare Bill is no more than legislated Grand Theft and Genocide.)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

I agree with you. If not for Newt, we would be in the boat we now find ourselves back in the 90s. He made a huge mistake with endorsing the RINO woman, but I think he did it because he was worried about splitting the ticket and threw his hat in the ring of the person he thought had the best chance of winning.

Newt knows how important it is to take back the House and get Pelosi out of control. Winning the battles, but not winning the war will lose us our country. So.... I’m cutting him some slack. I owe him respect for what he’s done in the past and what I think he was trying to do for our future, however wrong-headed it was.


157 posted on 10/31/2009 12:34:46 PM PDT by publana (Obama, you will not intimidate me into not voicing my opinions.)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball
I don't think the issue is what Newt did in the 90’s.

It is what he has become. Newt for Newt. He thinks he is the professor of the Conservative movement.

Watch or listen to Newt. He wants everyone to think he is the smartest person in the room and since he says something we should all bow down at the temple of Newt.

Just last week he said that the conservatives that were against his move did not know what they were doing.

Looks like it worked out in the end.

229 posted on 10/31/2009 4:21:48 PM PDT by vg0va3 (I don't plan to quit the fight until it is finally over.)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball
I would have thought it would entitle him to a bit more respect in opposition.

Judas Iscariot was a leader of Christ's Apostles. That didn't get him much of a pass. Turncoats are never loved by those they cross.

246 posted on 10/31/2009 6:23:36 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (He said red, yellow, black or white, All are equal in his sight, Mmm, mmm, mm!, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball
That is how I feel about him also. Anyone who has watched his teaching knows that he has(had) it right philosophically. He's just lacked courage lately for whatever reason.

I don't see other national leaders admitting they misjudged things, which says something. He admitted to Hannity that he was wrong about Obama being a radical and governing like one.

He seems to be afflicted with the D.C. virus whereby conservatives lose their confidence and become assimilated into the Borg, rather than ripping it's guts out from within.

296 posted on 11/01/2009 6:28:22 AM PST by ecomcon
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