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Judge Carter Ruling on MTD
scribd ^ | 10/29/09 | Judge Carter

Posted on 10/29/2009 10:19:10 AM PDT by Elderberry

Judge Carter Ruling on MTD


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: article2section1; birthcertificate; birthers; carter; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; nbc; obama; obamaisfafraud; obamathugs; orly; orlytaitz; romney4obama; romneyantigop; romneybotshere; romneybotsvsbirthers
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To: Kenny Bunk

Didn’t you know that British Subject/US Citizens alive at the time of Independence were given a special constitutional pass so the NBC rule didn’t apply to them? I suggest you change your tag, it just advertises your lack of knowledge on this.


661 posted on 11/04/2009 11:30:40 AM PST by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Didn’t you know that British Subject/US Citizens alive at the time of Independence were given a special constitutional pass so the NBC rule didn’t apply to them? I suggest you change your tag, it just advertises your lack of knowledge on this.


662 posted on 11/04/2009 11:30:46 AM PST by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: plenipotentiary
Didn’t you know that British Subject/US Citizens alive at the time of Independence were given a special constitutional pass so the NBC rule didn’t apply to them?

Yes. By now we all know the founders were not "Natural Born Citizens." They "grandfathered" themselves (and their sons) in as Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates.

But, the Declaration of Independence pre-dates the Constitution by 13 years. The Constitution says "....at the time of ratification....," which was 1788. So, your real question is, "Did Americans stop being British Subjects on July 4th 1775?" What about Tories? Was a kid born on July 5th 1775 in Philadelphia to two natives of that city already a "Natural Born Citizen?"

I suggest you change your tag, it just advertises your lack of knowledge on this.

How so? Or do you think our putative POTUS might still be a British Subject, or Kenyan Citizen? (I think that technically, he is perhaps still a Dual Citizen, rather than a "former British Subject") In regard to GW, at what point do you think he stopped being a British Subject in rebellion, and became an American Citizen?

663 posted on 11/05/2009 6:04:23 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (George Washington was a former British Subject. Just like Obama.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

At the time of Independence each State would have had its own Constitution. As to eligibility to be US President, the office did not exist till the US Constitution was adopted, so the US President NBC requirement wasn’t needed.

Your tag implies that the circumstances of Wasington and Obama re NBC were the same, which is very misleading.


664 posted on 11/05/2009 6:41:59 AM PST by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: Kenny Bunk

At the time of Independence each State would have had its own Constitution. As to eligibility to be US President, the office did not exist till the US Constitution was adopted, so the US President NBC requirement wasn’t needed.

Your tag implies that the circumstances of Wasington and Obama re NBC were the same, which is very misleading.


665 posted on 11/05/2009 6:42:06 AM PST by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: plenipotentiary
....the office did not exist till the US Constitution was adopted,...

there was a Presidency under the Articles of Confederation, but I have never seen any qualifications for the post.

At birth, GW was the son of two American subjects of the crown. At his birth, Obama was the son (he says) of an American citizen and a British Subject. Neither man was, of course, a "Natural Born Citizen." In writing themselves and their sons an exemption, the founders at least had the courtesy to mention it.

666 posted on 11/05/2009 7:20:03 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (No matter where his birth took place, BHO, Jr. cannot be a "Natural Born Citizen.")
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To: Kenny Bunk

The President of the Confederation Congress (according to Wikipedia) was a member of that Congress, not an Executive President as currently. But having said that I think we agree, and I appologise for the tone of my first post. I am very sensitive to the presence of Obamatons at the moment. I do prefer your current tag. Regards. Mark


667 posted on 11/05/2009 1:18:28 PM PST by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: El Gato

It works better then sending Taitz money which is akin to flushing it. We have to win elections. There is no other legitimate way.


668 posted on 11/08/2009 4:51:47 PM PST by nyconse (When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy American or bye bye America)
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To: Elderberry

Metropolitian Transit District??


669 posted on 11/08/2009 4:53:34 PM PST by dalereed
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To: dalereed

Motion to Dismiss.

Catching up on old Posts?


670 posted on 11/08/2009 6:04:44 PM PST by Elderberry
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