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Vigilante justice spreads across Mexico
Global Post ^ | 10/28/09

Posted on 10/28/2009 11:10:48 AM PDT by FromLori

MEXICO CITY, Mexico — The five teenage boys slump against the wall of a dark house and eye the camcorder nervously. Suddenly, a fist enters the frame smacking one of the boys in the face. Then the barrel of an automatic rifle appears and the teenagers’ expressions turn to terror.

“Why are you here?” shouts a voice. “For robbing,” one of the boys mumbles.

“You see. You were little rats and now look at you,” replies the interrogator.

The torture video of the five alleged house burglars was posted on the internet last week. It is the latest sign of brutal vigilante justice spreading across Mexico.

As kidnappings, muggings and car jackings spiral out of control, and the authorities appear increasingly impotent, shadowy groups have been advocating justice by the sword.

In other recent cases, alleged kidnappers and car thieves have been abducted and murdered and had their corpses dumped in public places along with threatening notes. There are also rising cases of mobs lynching alleged thieves and leaving them beaten, naked and tied up. “The government is failing to provide security and people are turning to some brutal alternatives,” said Rossana Reguillo, who studies crime and violence at the Jesuit University of Guadalajara. “This is not something that has always been around in Mexico. It is a new phenomenon that has been growing since 2000.”

In the latest case, the five teenagers were abducted after they allegedly robbed a house in the town of Tepic in the Pacific state of Nayarit.

The boys — all students of a local high school — were taken to an abandoned building where they had their heads shaved and then were beaten by fists and rifle butts and threatened at gun point, as shown on the video. One of the torturers is heard on the film saying he is the man whose house was robbed. The teenagers were also forced to perform sexual acts — including kissing each other in front of the camera — as a humiliation. The gunmen are heard threatening to cut their hands off unless they comply.

After being held all night the students were dumped naked on the street and then attended at hospital for injuries including broken ribs.

The torture film was posted on YouTube under the title “Little Rats of Tepic.” YouTube’s monitors quickly removed it from the site, flagging it as unsuitable content.

Following an outcry over the film, police on Monday arrested four building workers for the torture. However, one of the boys said they had first been arrested by state police and it was the officers themselves who turned them to the vigilantes. The Nayarit police chief denies the charge, saying officers did not question the boys until after they had been tortured.

The incident sparked disgust and condemnation from many.

“Opening the door to justice by your own hand is an enormous step back to a state of barbarism and lack of culture,” said Huicot Rivas, the president of Nayarit’s Human Rights Commission. “In a democratic state, crime can never be used to combat crime.”

However, others cheered on the vigilantes for trying to clean up the streets.

“For me the men who made this video are heroes. I sincerely admire them,” wrote a reader on the website of Mexican newspaper El Universal. “In Mexico, we need death squads to hunt and exterminate rats and kidnappers without further expense to society and the without human rights people getting in the way.”

“I recognize that this is not the correct way to administer justice but I can’t deny that it makes me happy that this type of thing happens,” wrote another reader.

Such feelings reflect desperation among many in Mexico about the lack of security. Amid a drug war that has left thousands dead, rates of anti-social crimes such as kidnapping and carjacking have risen to become among the worst in the world. At the same time, conviction rates for these relatively minor crimes are as low as 5 percent.

Many readers of newspapers have also written in to commend shadowy vigilante groups that have publicly announced their appearance in crime-plagued communities.

One such group called the Popular Anti-Drugs Army materialized among farming towns in the southern state of Guerrero.

Displaying blankets with written messages on bridges and buildings, the group claimed to be made up of family men who had come together to force drug dealers off the street.

“We invite the people to join our struggle and defend our children who are the future of Mexico,” it said on one of the blankets.

The group has been linked to several killings, including the decapitation of an alleged drug dealer in December. Following stories of that slaying, readers hailed the efforts in some Mexican media outlets.

“My sincerest congratulations to these brave men with their courage and determination,” wrote a reader of Mexican newspaper Milenio. “God help them with their noble cause.”

Investigators suspect that organized-crime groups themselves could be behind many of the vigilantes. While the gangsters traffic drugs to the United States, some are against selling them in their own communities and are opposed to criminals such as muggers and kidnappers.

A similar situation emerged in Colombia in the 1990s, when paramilitary groups both trafficked drugs and enforced the law against petty crooks in the fiefdoms they controlled.

The investigator Reguillo says that while it may not get as bad as Colombia, the vigilantism does pose a real threat to the Mexican state. “When armed groups administer their own justice, this represents an alternate power,” she said. “This a major problem for democracy in Mexico.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; crime; immigration; mexico; vigilante
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To: SwinneySwitch

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21 posted on 10/28/2009 11:54:52 AM PDT by GulfBreeze (Palin 2012 - For The Change You Wanted!!!)
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To: FromLori
“Opening the door to justice by your own hand is an enormous step back to a state of barbarism and lack of culture,” said Huicot Rivas, the president of Nayarit’s Human Rights Commission. “In a democratic state, crime can never be used to combat crime.”

"It's better to stay at home and wait to become a victim," Rivas added. /sarcasm

22 posted on 10/28/2009 11:58:23 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: FromLori
When the law fails to protect this is what happens. At it's heart, the law exists to keep, individuals, families, clans and other groups from running around carrying out their own justice, which results in chaos. You can't have a prosperous, heavily populated or safe place to live without faith in the law. Even if the law is often a farce it can't be perceived as not working.
23 posted on 10/28/2009 12:11:13 PM PDT by dog breath
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To: FromLori; RC one; DirtyHarryY2K; GOPsterinMA; woerm; bert; altura; bunster; waterhill; ...

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24 posted on 10/28/2009 12:13:07 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations!)
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To: FromLori
The Mexican police, politicians, et al that customarily take cash/bribes from the thugs down there could possibly lose that source of funding if this keeps up.
25 posted on 10/28/2009 12:38:33 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: FromLori

We have to work on naming the corrupt and criminal DemocRATS/ACORN “rats.” They are the party of gangs, drug dealers and felons who prey upon citizens. The Mexicans over here will get the picture.


26 posted on 10/28/2009 12:48:24 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: FromLori

27 posted on 10/28/2009 12:54:26 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Quotes of the century: 2001 "Lets Roll"..... 2009 "You Lie")
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To: Fiji Hill

So you trust vigilantes to deliver justice? I don’t.


28 posted on 10/28/2009 2:38:16 PM PDT by Melas
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To: FromLori

I applaud these “vigilantes” in Mexico.

If the government and police cannot do what is needed to protect the families, then certainly, the men should ban together and do what they have to do.

I hate it, but it is needed. Now, if the rest of Mexican men would do the same thing.


29 posted on 10/28/2009 3:35:29 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

We should go in and annex Mexico. We are in the process of becoming Estados Unidos anyway.


30 posted on 10/28/2009 3:41:45 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Melas

You live in the city don’t you? All you have to do is pick up the phone and the police come screaming to your place.

They don’t. They have a right to protect their children, protect their homes and protect their streets.

You wouldn’t have made a very good founding father. “Oh, let’s just let King George protect us”.


31 posted on 10/28/2009 3:49:18 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: FromLori

My heart bleeds.


32 posted on 10/28/2009 3:58:54 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (God wants a Liberal or RINO hanging from every tree...or TWO, if they're UN meddlers.)
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To: ozarkgirl

You’re avoiding my most basic of points. Vigilantes cannot be trusted to deliver justice. History is replete with examples of vigilantes acting on accusations alone and killing innocent people.

The most galling part of your post is attempting to justify vigilantism by comparing vigilantes to the founding fathers. These same founding fathers created an elaborate system to determine guilt and protect the innocent. Surely you don’t expect us to believe that the same people who penned and affirmed that no person should be denied due process would have supported this kind of behavior. You obviously didn’t think this one through. If you’re correct, then they must have been kidding when the the Bill of Rights was ratified.


33 posted on 10/28/2009 4:13:19 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Melas

Yep, you can’t ALWAYS agree that vigilantes can be trusted but I think they are more to be trusted than people who don’t live in the area.

Where I used to live, it was somewhat remote. Druggies like to make meth in our area. Last I heard, young man and young lady were making meth in a country house (piece of crap) and were caught by county LEO. They arrested him and she continued to deal out of the house. I heard the house burned down (old piece of crap country house that probably should have been abandoned).

Rumor was the neighbors burnt them out. Truth probably was they burnt themselves out (meth is highly flammable). But no one cared. If the neighbors burnt them out, good for them!!

That’s vigilanteism.

You’re a city boy - you think of vigilanteism as the gang culture. Not here, it’s good and decent men protecting their families. Same way in Mexico and I STILL applaud them for protecting their families.


34 posted on 10/28/2009 4:31:07 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: Melas
So you trust vigilantes to deliver justice? I don’t.

But do you trust the police and military?

The people in Mexico don't. There is no police like we know.

There is no justice. There is no recourse. If your 11 year old daughter is kidnapped, raped, and killed to make a snuff film, you have no one that will even listen to your complaint.

How do you live in a society like that?

Vigilantism is expected in a culture where law and order has been abandoned.

While I don't support vigilantism, I can sure see why it has come about. Do you understand why?

35 posted on 10/28/2009 4:54:38 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: FromLori

“Death Wish” with Charles Bronson comes to mind!


36 posted on 10/28/2009 5:01:37 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: bert

You beat me to it!


37 posted on 10/28/2009 5:05:36 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: FromLori

As hard as the author of this tries, I can’t feel any sympathy to the young bandits.


38 posted on 10/28/2009 5:08:28 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Ram "Health Care Reform" down our throats in '09, and we'll ram it up your @ss in '10.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
While I don't support vigilantism, I can sure see why it has come about. Do you understand why?

I not only understand why, but I understand why this is just a harbinger of more hell to come. It's a sign of complete decay, and it's only going to get worse. Mexico may well be reduced to tribalism in my lifetime.

39 posted on 10/28/2009 5:10:50 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Melas
It's a sign of complete decay, and it's only going to get worse.

In general, I agree with you, but I don't think it's hopeless. I'd say Mexico is coming to grips with the fact that they're at a crossroads. If they don't, then I'm wrong...it is hopeless.

40 posted on 10/28/2009 5:16:01 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Ram "Health Care Reform" down our throats in '09, and we'll ram it up your @ss in '10.)
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