Vigilante justice spreads across Mexico

Global Post ^ | 10/28/09

[GulfBreeze]

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“Opening the door to justice by your own hand is an enormous step back to a state of barbarism and lack of culture,” said Huicot Rivas, the president of Nayarit’s Human Rights Commission. “In a democratic state, crime can never be used to combat crime.”

"It's better to stay at home and wait to become a victim," Rivas added. /sarcasm

[dog breath]

When the law fails to protect this is what happens. At it's heart, the law exists to keep, individuals, families, clans and other groups from running around carrying out their own justice, which results in chaos. You can't have a prosperous, heavily populated or safe place to live without faith in the law. Even if the law is often a farce it can't be perceived as not working.

[SwinneySwitch]

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[drypowder]

The Mexican police, politicians, et al that customarily take cash/bribes from the thugs down there could possibly lose that source of funding if this keeps up.

[SaraJohnson]

We have to work on naming the corrupt and criminal DemocRATS/ACORN “rats.” They are the party of gangs, drug dealers and felons who prey upon citizens. The Mexicans over here will get the picture.

[bert]

[Melas]

So you trust vigilantes to deliver justice? I don’t.

[ozarkgirl]

I applaud these “vigilantes” in Mexico.

If the government and police cannot do what is needed to protect the families, then certainly, the men should ban together and do what they have to do.

I hate it, but it is needed. Now, if the rest of Mexican men would do the same thing.

[MinorityRepublican]

We should go in and annex Mexico. We are in the process of becoming Estados Unidos anyway.

[ozarkgirl]

You live in the city don’t you? All you have to do is pick up the phone and the police come screaming to your place.

They don’t. They have a right to protect their children, protect their homes and protect their streets.

You wouldn’t have made a very good founding father. “Oh, let’s just let King George protect us”.

[ApplegateRanch]

My heart bleeds.

[Melas]

You’re avoiding my most basic of points. Vigilantes cannot be trusted to deliver justice. History is replete with examples of vigilantes acting on accusations alone and killing innocent people.

The most galling part of your post is attempting to justify vigilantism by comparing vigilantes to the founding fathers. These same founding fathers created an elaborate system to determine guilt and protect the innocent. Surely you don’t expect us to believe that the same people who penned and affirmed that no person should be denied due process would have supported this kind of behavior. You obviously didn’t think this one through. If you’re correct, then they must have been kidding when the the Bill of Rights was ratified.

[ozarkgirl]

Yep, you can’t ALWAYS agree that vigilantes can be trusted but I think they are more to be trusted than people who don’t live in the area.

Where I used to live, it was somewhat remote. Druggies like to make meth in our area. Last I heard, young man and young lady were making meth in a country house (piece of crap) and were caught by county LEO. They arrested him and she continued to deal out of the house. I heard the house burned down (old piece of crap country house that probably should have been abandoned).

Rumor was the neighbors burnt them out. Truth probably was they burnt themselves out (meth is highly flammable). But no one cared. If the neighbors burnt them out, good for them!!

That’s vigilanteism.

You’re a city boy - you think of vigilanteism as the gang culture. Not here, it’s good and decent men protecting their families. Same way in Mexico and I STILL applaud them for protecting their families.

[Anitius Severinus Boethius]

So you trust vigilantes to deliver justice? I don’t.

But do you trust the police and military?

The people in Mexico don't. There is no police like we know.

There is no justice. There is no recourse. If your 11 year old daughter is kidnapped, raped, and killed to make a snuff film, you have no one that will even listen to your complaint.

How do you live in a society like that?

Vigilantism is expected in a culture where law and order has been abandoned.

While I don't support vigilantism, I can sure see why it has come about. Do you understand why?

[Randy Larsen]

“Death Wish” with Charles Bronson comes to mind!

[Randy Larsen]

You beat me to it!

[Cyber Liberty]

As hard as the author of this tries, I can’t feel any sympathy to the young bandits.

[Melas]

While I don't support vigilantism, I can sure see why it has come about. Do you understand why?

I not only understand why, but I understand why this is just a harbinger of more hell to come. It's a sign of complete decay, and it's only going to get worse. Mexico may well be reduced to tribalism in my lifetime.

[Cyber Liberty]

It's a sign of complete decay, and it's only going to get worse.

In general, I agree with you, but I don't think it's hopeless. I'd say Mexico is coming to grips with the fact that they're at a crossroads. If they don't, then I'm wrong...it is hopeless.