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Scholars Aim to Disprove Darwin (As Theory Turns 150, Scientists Say It's Impossible)
zna ^ | October 26, 2009

Posted on 10/27/2009 10:23:15 AM PDT by NYer

ROME, OCT. 26, 2009 (Zenit.org).- As the theory of evolution turns 150 years old, one group of scholars is calling it a scientific impossibility.

After a year of conferences celebrating the 150th anniversary of Darwin's 1859 book, "On the Origin of Species," a Nov. 9 conference is planned to provide empirical proof to debunk evolution.

Rome's Pope Pius V University will host the daylong conference that will present a scientific refutation of evolution theory.

Peter Wilders and H. M. Owen, organizers of the event, told ZENIT that the conference is aimed to "stimulate debate among scientists" and that it is particularly geared to university students.

"Being young, they have less built-in resistance to new data that conflicts with establishment dogma," a statement from the organizers explained.

"Darwinian evolution has become the accepted paradigm of the scientific community," they noted. "New research data that challenges that paradigm is automatically rejected for philosophical rather than scientific reasons.

"Results of recent empirical research published by scientific academies refutes the basic principles of the geological time-scale. It reduces the age of rocks and therefore the fossils in them. The theory of evolution is undergirded by both the time-scale and the age of fossils.

"This evidence from sedimentology harmonizes with the latest findings in genetics, paleontology, physics, and other scientific disciplines. The implications of this research are fatal for Darwinism."

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According to Russian sedimentologist Alexander Lalamov, "Everything contained in Darwin’s 'Origin of Species' depends upon rocks forming slowly over enormous periods of time. The November conference demonstrates with empirical data that such geological time is not available for evolution."

Recently returned from a geological conference in Kazan, sedimentologist Guy Berthault will present the findings of several sedimentological studies conducted and published in Russia. In one of these, the age of the rock formation surveyed was found to be 0.01% of the age attributed to it by the geological time-scale -- instead of an age of 10,000,000 years, the actual age was no more than 10,000 years.

"Contrary to conventional wisdom," Lalamov observed, "these rocks formed quickly, and the fossils they contain must be relatively young. This finding contradicts the evolutionary interpretation of the fossil record."

According to U.S. biophysicist Dean Kenyon, "Biological macroevolution collapses without the twin pillars of the geological time-scale and the fossil record as currently interpreted. Few scientists would contest this statement. This is why the upcoming conference concentrates on geology and paleontology. Recent research in these two disciplines adds powerful support to the already formidable case against teaching Darwinian macroevolution as if it were proven fact."

"The Scientific Impossibility of Evolution" conference is being held in direct response to Benedict XVI's request that both sides of the evolution controversy be heard.

Thomas Seiler, a participant in the conference, said: "In the light of astounding new scientific breakthroughs, particularly in geology, we hope the worldwide scientific community will acknowledge the overwhelming evidence against the theory of evolution."

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Abstracts of the presentations: http://sites.google.com/site/scientificcritiqueofevolution/


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: atomsdonotexist; darwin; electricityisfire; evolution; gravityisahoax; sedimentology
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1 posted on 10/27/2009 10:23:16 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 10/27/2009 10:23:54 AM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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"Scholars Aim to Disprove Darwin

LOL, those boys at the onion sure get around.

3 posted on 10/27/2009 10:25:57 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: NYer

I’ve never heard of Pope Pius V University.


4 posted on 10/27/2009 10:28:39 AM PDT by Varda
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To: org.whodat

You know I was thinking the same thing.


5 posted on 10/27/2009 10:29:22 AM PDT by FormerRep
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To: NYer
The Catholics have already posted Dr. Henke's debunking of Dr. Berthault.

Anyway 10,000 years is still too old for a 6,000-year-old earth.

6 posted on 10/27/2009 10:40:33 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

You’re going to hang your hat on that?!


7 posted on 10/27/2009 10:57:09 AM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: org.whodat
Silly flat earther. What this means is that Raquel Welch could have been in a leather bikini with dinosaurs.
8 posted on 10/27/2009 10:58:08 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: IrishCatholic
Dang, you mean that wasn't real????
9 posted on 10/27/2009 11:10:37 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: NYer

“”Darwinian evolution has become the accepted paradigm of the scientific community,” they noted. “New research data that challenges that paradigm is automatically rejected for philosophical rather than scientific reasons.”

True.

“In one of these, the age of the rock formation surveyed was found to be 0.01% of the age attributed to it by the geological time-scale — instead of an age of 10,000,000 years, the actual age was no more than 10,000 years.”

Off by one decimal place. 10 million to 10 thousand is a factor of 1,000. The inverse is .1%, not .01%.


10 posted on 10/27/2009 11:17:58 AM PDT by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress. What is it today?)
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To: NYer

for later reading


11 posted on 10/27/2009 11:21:44 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It is our choices, far more than our abilities, that show us what we truly are. " -- J.K.Rowling)
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To: NYer

ping


12 posted on 10/27/2009 11:31:12 AM PDT by Ulysse (a)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Anyway 10,000 years is still too old for a 6,000-year-old earth.

Relatively the same order of magnitude. This can be expected to be refined over the years with the addition of other data points. The real issue is coming from 10M to 10K.

13 posted on 10/27/2009 11:35:14 AM PDT by D Rider
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Volcanic eruption such as Surtsey have afforded geologist the opportunity to evaluate new rocks, lava, sand and other forms of new earth. They have clearly noted that they appear consistent with so called old geologic findings. Students are still taught in our schools to day that it takes many millions of years to transform new rocks into round rocks and sand by various forms of erosion. Surtsey and other volcanic events overtly demonstrate the instant formation of smooth round rocks that also may or may not have inclusions and the formation of pure fine sand.
14 posted on 10/27/2009 11:44:44 AM PDT by tongass kid
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He’s saying that the correct figure is 10,000 years. He’s not calling it an estimate.

This figure disproves all of creationist theory by his own logic.

I suppose he could start looking for 10 million year-old human fossils. If he found a bunch of these he would have something.


15 posted on 10/27/2009 12:06:56 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: pgyanke

Hang my hat on 350 years of observations by dedicated Christians?

You bet I am.


16 posted on 10/27/2009 12:08:21 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

You missed my point. The “estimate” of the age of the Earth has gone from 5+ billion years to 10,000 and you want to quibble over the last 4,000? Or maybe you don’t...


17 posted on 10/27/2009 12:17:44 PM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: pgyanke

I think you missed my point.

Dr. Berthault just “proved” that his formation is 10,000 years old.

That means the 6000-year-old origin of the earth is false.

Even if he were correct, he’s established that one formation that’s only 10 million years-old is now older than creationists claim the universe to be.

He hasn’t established anything about any other formation on this planet or any other.

Without demonstrating that the current estimate that scientists use for the earth’s age is wrong, he’s “proven” that creationists are wrong.

If creationists had any interest in facts, this should bother them.


18 posted on 10/27/2009 12:29:19 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: tongass kid
Additionally many fossils were discovered on Surtsey in 1974. It is nearly impossible to explain how fossil survived the super heated volcanic event to become part of the “new rock”. Because of Surtsey’s fossils it is readily apparent that to date a rock by the age of the fossils in the rock is only accurate scientifically if the rock is observed at initial formation (such as observed on Surtsey). The old circular reasoning of dating a rock by the fossils included in the rock or dating the fossil by the age of the rock is overtly contradicted by Surtsey. Surtsey has also has provided serious doubts for carbon dating fossils and other geologic methods of dating rocks and fossils. If you have further interest I recommend the scientific work of Iceland geologist S. Thorarinsson. Cheers
19 posted on 10/27/2009 12:31:59 PM PDT by tongass kid
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To: NYer
The Libera Università degli Studi "San Pio V" (homepage, wikipedia) is a is a - private Italian and state-recognised elite university located in Rome, Italy. It was founded in 1996 and is organized in 3 Faculties., which are
  1. Faculty of Economics
  2. Faculty of Foreign Languages and Literature
  3. Faculty of Political Sciences
No biology, no science, no mathematics... So, some guys rented out some space at this not-so-universal university, and now they can claim correctly that "Rome's Pope Pius V University will host the daylong conference that will present a scientific refutation of evolution theory."
20 posted on 10/27/2009 1:13:07 PM PDT by bezelbub
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