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Vitamin D supplements show anti-diabetes potential
nutraingredients-usa.com ^ | 27-Oct-2009 | Stephen Daniells

Posted on 10/27/2009 9:16:38 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: Marie Antoinette

Thanks. Didn’t catch the difference...!


41 posted on 10/27/2009 12:28:27 PM PDT by djf (Grasshopper: The game is rigged. Patience takes forever to learn. You're so screwed!!)
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To: Obadiah

Jeez, first, I’m female. Second, though I am ‘black,’ my skin tone is beige, like an Hispanic’s. I am describing my color correctly. Blacks are advised to take Vit D because of skin color, and especially if they live in cloudy climes.

Can.not.win with FReepers.


42 posted on 10/27/2009 12:30:01 PM PDT by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: radiohead

I was just kidding with my comment! My wife is taking add’l D also because she is Type II and a moderately dark complexion (south Asian).


43 posted on 10/27/2009 12:32:26 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: chris_bdba; djf
That isn’t the defination of type 1 or type 2. Type 1 means your body stopped producing insulin and you are always afflicted before the age of 40yo. Type 2 is due to age and lifestyle and the body either can’t use the insulin it produces or the pancreas can’t produce enough. Some type 2 will also at some point stop producing insulin but they still are classified as a type 2. Also type 1 is an autiommune diease where type 2 isn’t.

Close, classic type 1 diabetes means your body stopped producing insulin, or not making enough insulin as the beta cells are not entirely killed yet from the autoimmune reaction, and you are always afflicted before the age of 25 years old. Type 2 diabetes is usually characterized as insulin resistance in the obese older than 40 years old.

Maturity Onset Diabetes in the Young, MODY, is now well established as a manifestation of obesity and insulin resistance in those less than 25 years old, their version of type 2 diabetes. They also now recognize Type 1.5 Diabetes, aka Slow Onset Type 1 and LADA, Latent Autoimmune Diabetes in Adults, in those older than 25 years old.

I could have sworn I posted an article discussing LADA. Maybe it was yanked. That link has a good disussion about it.

The autoimunne versions have antibodies, especially those against glutamic acid decarboxylase(GAD). When you can make insulin any more, you won't have any peptide C on the lab test.

44 posted on 10/27/2009 12:33:37 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Billthedrill
A little off-topic, but nanomoles per liter? We've come a long way...

Because of medication errors with abbreviations, abbreviations are now forbidden in many institutions, if not all. So nanomoles is easier to write than international units.

45 posted on 10/27/2009 12:40:06 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: radiohead

Do not take seriously, we don’t care what color
you are. I myself am sort of teal or perhaps puce?
It’s hard to tell.

Welcome to FR and for your comments.
I lived in Seattle for a short while back in the 70s.

Tet.

I have recently started taking Vitamin D as a flu preventative, but after reading a lot of articles
like this have gone to 4-1000 iu per day.
Will let you know how it goes.
I am also type II diabetic.

Goodluck.


46 posted on 10/27/2009 12:42:47 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: LucyT

Thanks for the link.


47 posted on 10/27/2009 12:44:26 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Sunscreen blocks the absorption of Vit D

No, if anything, it would block or reduce the conversion of 7- dehydrocholesterol in the skin into vitamin D. It would have nothing to do with absorption.
48 posted on 10/27/2009 12:45:12 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: chris_bdba; djf; All
When you can make insulin any more, you won't have any peptide C on the lab test.

Should have been: "When you can't make insulin any more, you won't have any peptide C on the lab test."

That is when type 1 is suspected, peptide C is checked. Below normal levels of peptide C supports a type 1 diagnosis. GAD antibodies will confirm it or LADA.

Within the endoplasmic reticulum, proinsulin is exposed to several specific endopeptidases which excise the C peptide, thereby generating the mature form of insulin. Insulin and free C peptide are packaged in the Golgi into secretory granules which accumulate in the cytoplasm.

49 posted on 10/27/2009 1:01:35 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

“can’t make insulin any more...”

That’s when your blood turns into something resembling high quality 90WT gear oil...

I have always believed, and remain convinced, that everybody should fast a few days a month, like 3-4

Reset the clock. Clean out the junk. Clear up the chemical pathways, that sort of thing.


50 posted on 10/27/2009 1:13:19 PM PDT by djf (Grasshopper: The game is rigged. Patience takes forever to learn. You're so screwed!!)
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To: djf

Fasting is good advice ...


51 posted on 10/27/2009 1:14:01 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: bert; TheLurkerX; MHGinTN
I'm taking 6000 IUs daily. I have friends who have been prescribed 1 pill weekly of 50,000 IUs...by different doctors.

Drinking milk and eating cheese doesn't cut it! Eating fish three times a day is better for Vit D.

Other studies have found that people who take Vit D supplements aren't as prone to catch flu.

52 posted on 10/27/2009 1:23:35 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama and his czars have turned Bush's "mess" into a national crisis!)
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To: Scythian

Well, I’m 55, 5’7”, 135lbs, and have been that way pretty much my whole life.

Still wear 31” Levis.

I love food and love to eat but generally eat pretty light... unless I’m good and hungry, I mean ravenous, which is when I go into chef mode and spend a couple hours making spaghetti or a huge vat of chicken soup or stir fry or something.

I can tell when I need more minerals because I will get small muscle aches, so I up my calcium and magnesium. General lethargy, I up my vit B12 and C.

Wish there was a way I could tell the difference between being hungry (simple low blood sugar) and needing to up my protein. (I could probably do it with some type of urine test but I don’t need a full bore clinical chem lab in my house...)


53 posted on 10/27/2009 1:30:37 PM PDT by djf (Grasshopper: The game is rigged. Patience takes forever to learn. You're so screwed!!)
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To: radiohead
Can.not.win with FReepers.

You can say that again!

It never ceases to amaze that so many can't learn from the experience of others; only their experience is valid!

54 posted on 10/27/2009 1:40:18 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama and his czars have turned Bush's "mess" into a national crisis!)
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To: lonestar

I am taking 4,000 units per day, it is flu season. I take 2,000 the rest of the time. I can absolutely testify that the problems with colds and drainage and stuffiness disappeared.

The dosage seems to have not been settled. I at first took 2,000 units and bought 1,000 unit tabs from Walmart. I bought a big bottle. When they were gone, I found that Walmart was then selling 2,000 unit tabs. That means the demand is for 2,000 unit

I guess it will all settle out on some dosage. In the mean time, excess apparently doesn’t hurt and the cost is trivial. Better some than none


55 posted on 10/27/2009 3:22:50 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Quotes of the century: 2001 "Lets Roll"..... 2009 "You Lie")
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To: Apple Blossom; theKid51

ping


56 posted on 10/27/2009 3:34:21 PM PDT by bmwcyle (We need more Joe Wilson's. OBAMA is ACORN ACORN is OBAMA)
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To: bert

That’s what I’m taking-—three 2000IU-D3—from Walmart. My dr. is one who is prescribing 50000 once a week pills...but I’m taking OTC.


57 posted on 10/27/2009 4:18:54 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama and his czars have turned Bush's "mess" into a national crisis!)
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To: neverdem

Thanks. I hadn’t heard of 1.5 before this article. I try to read as much as I can because IMHO after being type one for nearly 40 years now it’s important that I keep track of the new things so I can ask my Dr about them and what she thinks.


58 posted on 10/27/2009 5:07:29 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: TheLurkerX
The study was done on "South Asian Women" ~ no one has done a study like this on sturdy Uber Nordic types (who live near the Arctic).

Frankly, I can hold my left hand out the sidewindow to signal a left turn and will get 50% of my annual D requirement in the time it takes to pull my hand back in.

I suppose I could eat more raw fish liver ~ which sounds pretty good at the moment ~ or carry around one of those polished steel mirrors under my coat so I can stop for a sunbreak at Noon in the winter.

Your typical South Asian Woman has a good tan with lots and lots of Persian genetic background. They may need more vitamin D.

59 posted on 10/27/2009 5:34:23 PM PDT by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: Quix

They give me Vitamin D in my dialysis solution so I can’t take any supplements, but thank you, dear heart.


60 posted on 10/27/2009 7:34:50 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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