How Can Glenn Beck Be Right on So Much and Yet Still Believe the book of Mormon? (serious question)

[Scythian]

I'm a huge Beck fan, in fact I'm listening right now here

http://www.ksfa860.com/common/gap_streamer.php

but something really confuses me. It takes the ability to use real critical thinking to know what Beck (and most of us know about the state of the country and where we are heading). That is, we have the ability to discover the truth no matter how much the media or conventional wisdom try to hide it. Yet on Mormonism, Beck is cleary wrong. Any Christian knows that the book or momonism is severely flawed and that Joseph Smith was no prophet. How can Beck cut through all the chaff of what is going on in our world and come to the truth and yet believe the writings of Joseph Smith? It doesn't make sense? I'm not saying he's up to something secret, not by any means, it's just that he's so right about so many things and completely wrong on the most important thing. Now, he just said on the air that he believes Jesus is the Savior of the world and that he is Mormon.

I also think that because he is Mormon he is not attacked near as much if he was a Evangelical Bible only believer. Anyway, am I nutz or does Beck being a Mormon seem bizarre?

[Colofornian]

Hijack the thread? Go and count your posts. Please go and review the points you made and how many of the posts denigrated LDS. Don't forget, the original post was about Glenn Becks credibility with regards to his show. Now, who hijacked the thread?

Short-term memory loss?

Here. Let me help you: Here's the original thread post from Scythian:
It takes the ability to use real critical thinking to know what Beck (and most of us know about the state of the country and where we are heading). That is, we have the ability to discover the truth no matter how much the media or conventional wisdom try to hide it. Yet on Mormonism, Beck is cleary wrong. Any Christian knows that the book or momonism is severely flawed and that Joseph Smith was no prophet. How can Beck cut through all the chaff of what is going on in our world and come to the truth and yet believe the writings of Joseph Smith? It doesn't make sense? I'm not saying he's up to something secret, not by any means, it's just that he's so right about so many things and completely wrong on the most important thing. Now, he just said on the air that he believes Jesus is the Savior of the world and that he is Mormon. I also think that because he is Mormon he is not attacked near as much if he was a Evangelical Bible only believer. Anyway, am I nutz or does Beck being a Mormon seem bizarre?

OK, has it really come down to where I need to point out to you that the original vanity post had...
...two references to Mormonism as a belief system...
...plus three Mormon references
...plus another two references to Joseph Smith
...plus four or so specific references to Beck's beliefs as a Mormon????

So, you're serious? If I discussed Glenn Beck's Mormonism on a plain thread about Glenn Beck's Mormonism I'm "hijacking the thread"???

I'm sorry. We're done. Your credulity has been fully shot. Please don't ping me again on any thread -- this one or future.

[top 2 toe red]

Since when has Glen Beck tried to influence you are anyone else in his TV audience about Mormonism?You hate the Mormon religion, we get it.

[top 2 toe red]

Oh, brother...didn’t take all you Mormon/Mitt haters long to get pinged to show up and start in with your bigotry, did it?

[Elsie]

Anyway, am I nutz or does Beck ANYONE being a Mormon seem bizarre?

[brytlea]

LOL I actually used to believe that too, when I was Catholic.

[top 2 toe red]

Great intelligent post!

[Elsie]

Whatever you might think of the Mormons, they are honest and productive, and don’t go around shouting “jihad” every second.

No more so than...

Baptists,
Catholics, Wesleyans,
Jehovah Witnesses,
Presbyterians (no matter WHAT Joseph Smith had written!),
Anglicans,
Methodists,
Congregationalists,
Nazarenes...

[colorcountry]

Oh brother....It seems to me that you just hate people who disagree with Mormonism or Mitt. You must be a bigot against telling the truth about Mormonism, or people opposed to Mitt Romney as President, huh?

[Elsie]

 

The theology and worldview of LDS is NOT challenged from within....

 

InDEED!!!

 

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"Any Latter-day Saint who denounces or opposes, whether actively or otherwise, any plan or doctrine advocated by the 'prophets, seers, and revelators' of the Church is cultivating the spirit of apostacy..."

(Improvement Era, June 1945, p. 354)

 

 

 

Reinforced here......

 

MP3 File

This is the audio clip of Dallin H. Oaks, current Mormon Apostle leader, from the PBS documentary, "The Mormons", declaring unequivocally:

"IT'S WRONG TO CRITICIZE LEADERS OF THE (MORMON) CHURCH, EVEN IF THE CRITICISM IS TRUE."

 

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Don't criticize?

 

Dallin H. Oaks, Mormon Apostle 

 

 

 

And here:

 

Temple Recommend Questions:

 1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

 2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

 3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

 4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

 5 Do you live the law of chastity?

 6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

 7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

 8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

 9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other oblgations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

     Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?

     Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Oh, they can say that their leaders were NOT speaking for GOD when they said ___WHATEVER__ but that's NOT the same as criticizing!

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( Remember fellow Christians:  the Mormon's criticize US because they've been taught that they CAN'T criticize ANY of their leaders; so they HAVE to vent somehow! )

[Elsie]

Grant others that same grace.

We do - and point out how MORMONism is NOT biblical!

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KJV

 Galatians 1:6-9

 6.  I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
 7.  Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
 8.  But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
 9.  As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
 

 

 

 

ANYBODY???

 

Like this fine looking fellow???

 

 

 

 

 

2 Corinthians 11:12-15

 12.  But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
 13.  For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
 14.  And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
 15.  Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

 

 

Like THESE guys??

 

 

 

 

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19

 

 

17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!

 

 

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Ephesians 2:1-2 

1.  And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

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1 Corinthians 4:17
  For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.

 

1 Corinthians 11:2
   Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.

 

2 Thessalonians 2:15
   Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

 

2 Timothy 1:13
   Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

 

2 Timothy 3:14-15
 14.  But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
 15.  And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

[Elsie]

My position is that Beck simply doesn’t know what is in the Book of Mormon.

Could be - but it is more likely that he doesn't know how the BoM and the BIBLE compare.

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Heck... most 'christians' don't know what is in the Bible!

[Elsie]

Don’t start up with this crap.

Please:

Do not talk about MORMONism in this manner.

--MormonDude(I am offended easily)

[TChris]

I really think you should spam more.

This thread needs more anti-Mormon spam.

[Elsie]

By and large, Mormons are an honest, clean, decent, industrious and patriotic lot.

 

 

 so are...

Baptists,
Catholics, Wesleyans,
Jehovah Witnesses,
Presbyterians (no matter WHAT Joseph Smith had written!),
Anglicans,
Methodists,
Congregationalists,
Nazarenes...

[Elsie]

Every Mormon I have ever met is extremely hard-working, bright, conservative and alcohol-free.

 

 

 So are...

Baptists,
Catholics, Wesleyans,
Jehovah Witnesses,
Presbyterians (no matter WHAT Joseph Smith had written!),
Anglicans,
Methodists,
Congregationalists,
Nazarenes...

[Elsie]

If you are a Christian, unless you are a practicing Catholic, then you have adopted teachings beyond the basic foundation of Christian belief.

Says WHO??

We Protestants and Catholics agree on EVERYTHING that matters about Salvation.

Our WORSHIP details differ; but they do not matter.

[Elsie]

He married into it I think.

No; he was able to get married because he got into SOME kind of 'religion'.

You can hear his testimoney on YouTube.

[pissant]

Get to the religion forum if you want to bitch and moan about the mormons.

[A. Patriot]

How Can Glenn Beck Be Right on So Much and Yet Still Believe the book of Mormon? (serious question)

Because he wants to (seriously).

[Elsie]

I could care less if he cuts the heads off chickens in his spare time, as long as he keeps exposing the truth about the zero and his commie minions.

Well; that'll keep us safe in THIS world...

...but what about the NEXT?