Glenn is just a commentator, he is not dictating government policy, he is not shoving legislation down our throats, he is not insisting that we worship as he does.
Don't like Glenn? Punch the one on the left.
Posted on 10/26/2009 7:51:02 AM PDT by Scythian
I'm a huge Beck fan, in fact I'm listening right now here
http://www.ksfa860.com/common/gap_streamer.php
but something really confuses me. It takes the ability to use real critical thinking to know what Beck (and most of us know about the state of the country and where we are heading). That is, we have the ability to discover the truth no matter how much the media or conventional wisdom try to hide it. Yet on Mormonism, Beck is cleary wrong. Any Christian knows that the book or momonism is severely flawed and that Joseph Smith was no prophet. How can Beck cut through all the chaff of what is going on in our world and come to the truth and yet believe the writings of Joseph Smith? It doesn't make sense? I'm not saying he's up to something secret, not by any means, it's just that he's so right about so many things and completely wrong on the most important thing. Now, he just said on the air that he believes Jesus is the Savior of the world and that he is Mormon.
I also think that because he is Mormon he is not attacked near as much if he was a Evangelical Bible only believer. Anyway, am I nutz or does Beck being a Mormon seem bizarre?
I see a lot of writing and not ONE example of where Beck has reported on religion and where that story was skewered by HIS faith.
Give me an example, please.
Because those of us who have no religious beliefs can take your concerns & apply them to *any* religious belief.
Yet, at the same time, I don't care what anyone else believes so long as they don't try & force it on me.
Then you must have missed the thread from Oct. 8 -- HowMormonismBuiltGlennBeck. Here's an excerpt from Joanna Brooks article posted at ReligionDispatches.org:
Beck, who was raised Catholic in Washington state, has produced, with the help of Mormon Church-owned Deseret Book Company, the DVD An Unlikely Mormon: The Conversion Story of Glenn Beck (2008); Mormon fansites invite visitors to learn more about Beck’s beliefs by clicking through to the official Web site of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
See post #243 -- I gave two examples. The Lds church, which specializes in training their members thru testimony meetings to bear their testimony, sees the DVD conversion project as one major "testimony-bearing" effort at proselytism.
Your opinion is noted.
Beck, who was raised Catholic in Washington state, has produced, with the help of Mormon Church-owned Deseret Book Company, the DVD An Unlikely Mormon: The Conversion Story of Glenn Beck (2008); Mormon fansites invite visitors to learn more about Beck’s beliefs by clicking through to the official Web site of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
That's NOT A STORY BECK DID.
That's a story ABOUT him. Give me a story HE did that was skewered by HIS religious beliefs!
so what if he is a mormon.
I couldn’t care less and I fail tot see why you should.
Does he push his religion on to you?
NO
Does he always keep on about it?
NO
So why are you bothered? Because you think your faith is the true faith .
Am I right??????
He is informing us what is going on ?
YES
Are you pushing your view on your religion right now?
AGREED
He’s a Mormon?
Been there. Done that.
FYI: The German intellectual and professor who was put in charge of outreach to the Muslim community by the German government, concluded his research by saying he could find no historical evidence that Mohammad ever existed.
--your response-- Unless there is overwhelming physical evidence that a faith is not true ...
Faith is not reasoned; evidence doesn't matter.
Lucky you. You glean the fruit of religious freedom based upon what the founding fathers took from the Bible (even non-Christians like Jefferson took much from the Bible)...yet you seemingly reject the rest of the faith beliefs many/most of those founding fathers adhered to.
It's kind of like living in the only secure neighborhood in a community -- taking advantage of that security because 75% of your neighbors believe in defending themselves with firearms...all the while preaching to your gun-toting neighbors, "Hey, don't force gun ownership on me. I don't have any opinions on the security effects of gun ownership."
Glenn is just a commentator, he is not dictating government policy, he is not shoving legislation down our throats, he is not insisting that we worship as he does.
Don't like Glenn? Punch the one on the left.
the left brought this up to bring Beck down and now you seem to be carrying this on.
The left wants us to argue about this so it forces Beck to talk about this instead of telling us what bozo is doing.
do you honestly not see this?
"Practically every report agrees that Reid will deliver a bill to the CBO today for scoring, and that it will include a public option with the potential for states to opt out."
Is this another way of saying you, for some unknown reason, give a crap that I don't have the same religious beliefs as the founding fathers (many of whom acted in entirely un-Christian ways)?
I think you need to worry far less about what other people do & think if it doesn't directly involve you.
I see that ‘The Church of the Religious Zealot’s’ is having another service.
These, “my religion is a better religion than your religion” and “your religion sucks” diatribes, make me want to puke every time it comes up.
I believe in God. I believe He is the Creator of all things. I believe he had a son named Jesus. I have seen miracles with my own eyes and I have been the recipient of several.
Having said all of that, I don’t believe that there is a single religion on this planet that has it ALL right. I also believe that those that damn others for their religious beliefs are fools.
Beck is a good man. He has been to the bottom in life... and through inner strength, the help of loved ones and the blessings of God, he has made himself and his family a good life.
It should be easy for anyone to see that Beck is a patriot all the way to his bones.
I view those that would attempt to impugn this man because of his personal choice of religion, to be very bad examples of their choice of religion and alleged beliefs.
I could probably fill a book with examples of those that try to exhibit an Holier than Thou persona.... that are NOT.
Let’s see, I think that at this point I am supposed to demonstrate that I am not a Mormon.... okay then here: damn, WTF, and I drink coffee and have an occasional beer. See, I am clearly not a Mormon, and other than a religion that teaches that their members are supposed to cut our heads off, I also don’t bash another persons religion.
This Mormon bashing is getting old and boring, so I wonder if the next time we have a service in ‘The Church of the Religious Zealot’s’ , could we please dissect and bash the various religions and beliefs of our Founding Fathers?
With that, I am going out to wire my new shop, so have fun and bash away. But know this, those without credibility will never not change my mind or beliefs.
God bless....
>>> afterall, you are the sole arbitor of all that is truth and what is false...such arrogance is truly frightening.
A believer in Islam could throw the same charges and accusations at you... or me for that matter.
My position on what is true does not have any affect on what is actually true. It is the individual’s responsibility to test all things to reach their own conclusions. I think for myself... nobody else.
Do you not consider it your responsibility to share what you believe to be true with others? If so, why? If not, why not? If you argue that the BOM is true, is it not fair based on your charge of me, that you think of yourself as God as well?
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