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Posted on 10/25/2009 12:24:37 PM PDT by AJKauf
You’re standing in your kitchen making coffee. You are naked, but no one else is home. It’s early in the morning and you are in the privacy of your own home. All right, so maybe you’re a little bit odd, and maybe not everyone makes coffee naked. But your house, your rules, right?
That’s probably what Virginia resident Eric Williamson was thinking last Monday morning as he made himself coffee while dressed in nothing but his birthday suit. Unfortunately for Williamson, he wasn’t quite as alone as he thought. Walking through his yard were a woman and her seven-year-old son, on their way to the son’s school. The woman — a wife of a police officer – saw Williamson’s naked torso through his window and called the cops. Williamson was arrested and charged with indecent exposure.
There are some disputed accounts of this story. It is unclear precisely what time of the morning it happened and whether or not the man moved to another window as the mother and child walked across the lawn in order to remain in their range of vision.What’s not in dispute here is that the man was in his own home and the mother and kid were on his property, walking across his grass.....
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“Who peed in your Cherios this morning?”
Seems to me, right back at you. Don’t know why you got all hypersensitive about the other post, as if he had any “attitude”.
Oh, I know we don’t really know all the facts.
1 thing I don’t like about this thread is how everyone is going off on the woman as if she DELIBERATELY wanted to look in the windows of the place! Ludicrous.
I don’t know even general laws, but it seems to me there is a point where you reach some kind of “negligence” with what you do inside your own home - that is sensible to the outside world. Certainly it applies to noise, but what about incidental “views”? The way people talk here, apparently it’s OK to wash your car nude in the driveway by the street as long as it’s “your property”. There ARE limits. Should be very few, but there should be some.
Mostly they are going off on her because she is married to LE and the anti-jackbooted thugs crowd is circling. They will circle around the worst scum if there is a jackbooted thug in the story, even remotely.
1) Why would a police officer be trespassing onto this man's property with her daughter?
2) Who looks IN the windows as they walk by a house? Maybe most people do, but I sure don't.
I think this woman probably knew or suspected the man liked to be nude in his home and she put together a way to get him for it.
Unless the guy was plainly visible from a public place, SHE should be the one in trouble for being a PEEPING TOM. (On private property, looking in the windows? TELL me how this would go if the sexes were reversed???)
He was.
“1) Why would a police officer be trespassing onto this man’s property with her daughter?”
SHE wasn’t the PO, it was her husband; and it was their SON.
“2) Who looks IN the windows as they walk by a house? Maybe most people do, but I sure don’t”
Again with the assumption she deliberately looked in his windows. Ever heard of incidentally seeing inside windows? It’s not as if they were shuttered and curtained.
I am equal opportunity.
OK, guilty of a drive-by reading. But the woman was still trespassing with her son.
Again with the assumption she deliberately looked in his windows. Ever heard of incidentally seeing inside windows? It’s not as if they were shuttered and curtained.
Again, what if the sexes were reversed? The ASSUMPTION would be Peeping Tom. Why isn't the woman in trouble for trespassing and looking in the windows, whatever the reason/excuse, as any MAN would be in the same circumstances.
Yes, she’s technically trespassing, although she may have had “permission” from the owner prior.
As for your assumption we’d all assume the man was a peeping tom - ridiculous and reactionary (i.e., men are always put upon and it’s all the fault of feminazis). Same thing - he can’t help but see some stuff from exposed windows. If he openly COMPLAINED about it, as this woman did - how could he be called a “peeping tom”? Hole in the logic, there.
The woman’s husband is the police officer. And it was reported the authorities took action after recieving other reports of indecency
Well, the only problem is that the urinalist that took that picture forgot to get out of the customary jounalistic position (with Democrats) before shooting.
That's not really a joke. I had a manager in the 1980s who was refused a building permit to add a floor to his house in RPV because the proposed addition would block a bit of a neighbor's view under similar circumstances.
Or gets mixed up and fries the kielbasa.
Huh?? She was on private property without permission. What right does she have to complain about something which is only illegal if done where it's publicly visible? She's fortunate if she doesn't get cited for trespassing. The fact that she's a cops wife makes it a little more egregious, I guess, but I for one would feel the same way if she weren't.
There was a case the first year I was in Japan of a Russian who was hungover and coming outside of his apartment naked and screaming at a child making noise in the morning. That was a totally different situation.
Whether he wears clothes or not, inside his own house isn't anyone's business but his own.
This is ridiculous. I found more on the story and a video, too - this guy is facing a year in jail and a $2000 fine if convicted:
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=25&sid=1790464
Not a good photo. You can watch a news report interviewing the guy right here:
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=25&sid=1790464
I believe the guy. The woman overreacted. She shouldn’t have been walking across his lawn looking in his window.
I believe the guy. The woman overreacted. She shouldn’t have been walking across his lawn looking in his window.
I agree.
“She was on private property without permission. What right does she have to complain about something which is only illegal if done where it’s publicly visible?”
You are aware that many windows and adjacent interiors are very visible from OTHER peoples’ HOUSES, are you not? It’s not as if it all magically becomes invisible once one crosses that property line.
As for persmission - I don’t know if she had it or not (probably not written, but perhaps expressed).
In any case, it’s not as if she was a true VOYEUR.
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