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NY-23 2009: Democrats Fan The Flames Of Scozzafava's Tax Troubles [she explored becoming a Rat]
The New York Daily News ^
| 2009-10-20
| Elizabeth Benjamin
Posted on 10/20/2009 3:59:10 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: Soul Seeker
John Cornyn voted for the stimulas did he not? Favored amnesty. Will all due respect, neither of those assertions are true.
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posted on
10/20/2009 5:18:23 PM PDT
by
okie01
(THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
To: Virginia Ridgerunner; pissant; stephenjohnbanker; Cedric
You need to know a few things about Cedric here. First, he (or she) was a big time McCain supporter who repeatedly insisted that all was fine and well with the staff overseeing Sarah Palin during the campaign.Cedric was a McCainiac?
Well, now that puts his/her actions in perspective.
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posted on
10/20/2009 5:20:12 PM PDT
by
rabscuttle385
(http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
She's more liberal than the Democrat.No she's not.
To: okie01; Soul Seeker; AuntB
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posted on
10/20/2009 5:23:40 PM PDT
by
rabscuttle385
(http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
You need to know a few things about Cedric here. He's remarkably handsome and virile, with a wit the envy of all, his intellect is just short of omniscient, he is both a man's man and a lady's man with a grateful trophy wife (42-24-34) who will testify to his charisma and sensuality.
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posted on
10/20/2009 5:23:42 PM PDT
by
Cedric
To: Cedric
If she walks like a duck and talks like a duck, she’s a RINO.
46
posted on
10/20/2009 5:26:28 PM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
To: rabscuttle385
Republican Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava is what us conservatives call a “MCCAIN REPUBLICAN”.
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posted on
10/20/2009 5:26:53 PM PDT
by
WaterBoard
(Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money to spend.)
To: Soul Seeker
Thanks for proving my point.
{Judd Gregg 83% rating by The American CONSERVATIVE Union}
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posted on
10/20/2009 5:27:32 PM PDT
by
Cedric
To: rabscuttle385
Followed
this link from Wikipedia's entry on Scozzafava.
Club for Growth darling Doug Hoffman is running on the Conservative Party line, and has even garnered the endorsement of Fred Thompson. The guy has legitimate traction, fueled by the fact that Dede Scozzafava, the Republican, is actually the most liberal candidate in the race. (Heck, she has run on the very liberalWorking Families Party ballot line in the past.)
Sure, she is a Republican, and opposes the public option. But she's been willing to raise taxes when budgets require it, and is to the left of most Democrats on social issues (including supporting gay marriage). That's why conservatives are panicked about her -- for a party that is becoming more regional, more conservative, more ideologically rigid, Scozzafava's brand of moderate conservatism is grating. Hence, Hoffman has a real shot at not just playing spoiler and undermining the GOP candidate's chances, but also of potentially winning.
The "Democrat" isn't even a Democrat -- he was a registered independent when selected by the district's Democratic county chairs for the special election. On social issues, he's pro-choice, but opposes gay marriage. On health care, he opposes a public option but doesn't have the balls to say so, so he talks all squishy like claiming he has no "litmus test" on the issue. He's a Lieberdem Blue Dog, and would strengthen the part of the Democratic caucus that is actually the problem, rather than the solution.
So who to root for? A Blue Dog who would strengthen the Democrats' corporatist faction, or a Republican version of a Lieberdem, who will probably be muzzled, but could -- if she remained true to her record in Albany -- be more of a Susan Collins-type Republican, a moderate in an ideologically rigid party willing to give the Dems fake "bipartisan" cover with crossover votes every once in a while.
If Republicans lose the seat, it'll dent that sense of momentum they believe is headed their way. If they win the seat, it will have been with a liberal Republican, suggesting that their path to electoral relevance in the northeast is to ditch the Southern-fueled ultra conservatism. Both are good for us.
If the Democrat loses the race, we lose nothing -- it was previously held by a Republican. If he wins the seat, we gain another obnoxious Blue Dog, undermining our caucus from within while adding just a single vote to our already dominant House majorities. More than likely, a net disadvantage.
So it's official, I'm rooting for the Republican to win. As a congresswoman, she could either move even more to the left to properly represent her progressive-trending district and be a pain in the side of the GOP caucus (they have nothing like our Blue Dogs), or Democrats can field a real Democrat to challenge her in 2010.
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posted on
10/20/2009 5:27:37 PM PDT
by
M203M4
(Damn, another boating trip, another los)
To: Jim Robinson
Yeah, so’s that low-down, dirty-rotten, RINO, Chris Smith!
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posted on
10/20/2009 5:29:05 PM PDT
by
Cedric
To: moose2004; Extremely Extreme Extremist; hiredhand; Squantos; Gilbo_3; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385
RE moose2004:
“...Im tired of certain people on this site, always the same ones, who attack almost every Repub as a RINO. I smell BS....”
Nope. Not attacking every Repub. Just the ones who really ARE RINOs. Do the names Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Arlen Specter, Jim Jeffords, Lincoln Chaffee, Lindsay Graham ring a bell? At almost every opportunity these “moderates” ( I call them gutless cowards) side with the enemy most recenty Snowe screwed us over, last week.
And this NY idiot is as flaming a lefty as you can get.
There are AMERICANS...and then there are Liberals.
NO RINOs. Not Now, Not Ever.
If that means writing in a candidate that’s what I will do. I do not and WILL NOT automatically push the “R” lever just because “Oh my, oh gee, we just HAVE to beat the Democrat!”
Does us NO GOOD to replace a liberal with a liberal.
Better the enemy you know, than have someone we put there turn on us at a critical time for a critical vote.
As for being “tired of certain people on this site” - that’s called freedom of speech. You also have the freedom to NOT read their comments and move along to someone that agrees with you.
At the end of the day, one team, one fight. But not when we let the enemy decide who our candidates will be.
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posted on
10/20/2009 5:31:56 PM PDT
by
NFHale
(The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
To: rabscuttle385; Virginia Ridgerunner
I thought he was an Entertainer? Who knew
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posted on
10/20/2009 5:34:09 PM PDT
by
pissant
(THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
To: pissant; rabscuttle385
“I thought he was an Entertainer? Who knew?”
LOL!
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posted on
10/20/2009 5:41:00 PM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
(Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
To: batter
That crap goes on in Utah too. Usually it is by a Dem turning Rep (in name only) in order to win the election and push their liberal agenda. A complacent (lazy) electorate is to blame, however.
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Yes. This is the real long term battle we all have - against apathy. I think America might be waking up...we’re all praying so.
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posted on
10/20/2009 5:47:20 PM PDT
by
SeattleBruce
(God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
To: moose2004
Do you see see a RINO around every corner?
++++++++++++++++
You have to admit, there are a lot of ‘em. They do a horrible job of hiding their inclinations. They don’t even seem phased that the base of the R party is CONSERVATIVE.
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posted on
10/20/2009 5:49:03 PM PDT
by
SeattleBruce
(God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
To: rabscuttle385
Scoffalawza is a real winner.
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posted on
10/20/2009 5:49:30 PM PDT
by
pissant
(THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: moose2004
Im tired of certain people on this site, always the same ones, who attack almost every Repub as a RINO. I smell BS.
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Moose, please admit, there’s a massive amount of clean up to do on aisle RINO of the Republican party. This has been generations in the making and they play perfectly into the socialists hands/plans.
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posted on
10/20/2009 5:51:21 PM PDT
by
SeattleBruce
(God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
To: cc2k
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posted on
10/20/2009 5:55:16 PM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
(Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
To: SeattleBruce
There are many repubs who I think are complicit, in bed with, accomplices...ie., on the same team as the dems. RINO moles from waaaaaay back.
I am not a believer in a 3rd party right now, but I trust no one active in either party.
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posted on
10/20/2009 5:55:54 PM PDT
by
IrishPennant
(Then join hand in hand, brave Americans all! By uniting we stand, by dividing we fall.)
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